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It makes a man grow tits.Śiva wrote:What's wrong with old fashioned Soy milk?
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The soy/almond milk vs cow milk thing is similar to the instant vs brewed coffee thing - each product is different even while they share a name. The thing is not to think of instant coffee as being a proper coffee substitute just as soy milk is not a substitute for cow juice - they're just foodstuffs with particular properties and characteristics, neither superior or inferior, and you use them according to personal taste. The same can be said of the veg*n vs the meatean sausage - two kinds of products with the same name, one is not a substitute for the other.
One of things I find particularly amusing about being a vegetarian is that some people think I'm lacking a necessary something-or-other by choosing not to have meat - therefore I must substitute some other thing for the absent meat component in my diet. If I'm invited round to someone's for dinner say, which admitted doesn't happen that often, and perhaps they don't know me that well or have never talked to me about foods I let them know I'm a vegetarian, and invariably while everyone is enjoying the chicken or whatever I have to politely tuck into some kind of experimental chicken substitute - like a nut bake or a bowl of poorly seasoned lentils. Even if I tell them that I'll eat what everybody else is having just with the meat bit left out, or if its a seriously meaty dish then I'm happy with a bag of salad or whatever, or bring to something along, they still feel the need to alternativise the meat portion. I mean, some people don't eat tomatoes or mushrooms or whatever, and there's no big deal about saying "I don't eat tomatoes," is there? - you just say "Oh, OK. Have a few extra sprouts then." And nobody ever says to a non-tomato-ist, "Are you allowed to have peppers, cause they're a bit like tomatoes in colour?" Veg*ns are allowed to eat exactly what they want, just like anybody else. It's a dietary choice, not a religion.
Every now an then I like a bit of soy milk for the taste in a frothy coffee or mocha - but only when I'm out. I don't have cereal so I don't know what's its like, but whatever it's like on cereal if you're expecting or want cow juice then a milked soy bean isn't going to cut it. Let us also not forget that some foodstuffs take a bit of getting used to. I mean, we didn't start drinking bear because we like the taste did we?
Who is it harming to call a veggie sausage a sausage? Do the meat product manufacturers think that people are buying the veggie product by accident and not being able to tell the difference?
One of things I find particularly amusing about being a vegetarian is that some people think I'm lacking a necessary something-or-other by choosing not to have meat - therefore I must substitute some other thing for the absent meat component in my diet. If I'm invited round to someone's for dinner say, which admitted doesn't happen that often, and perhaps they don't know me that well or have never talked to me about foods I let them know I'm a vegetarian, and invariably while everyone is enjoying the chicken or whatever I have to politely tuck into some kind of experimental chicken substitute - like a nut bake or a bowl of poorly seasoned lentils. Even if I tell them that I'll eat what everybody else is having just with the meat bit left out, or if its a seriously meaty dish then I'm happy with a bag of salad or whatever, or bring to something along, they still feel the need to alternativise the meat portion. I mean, some people don't eat tomatoes or mushrooms or whatever, and there's no big deal about saying "I don't eat tomatoes," is there? - you just say "Oh, OK. Have a few extra sprouts then." And nobody ever says to a non-tomato-ist, "Are you allowed to have peppers, cause they're a bit like tomatoes in colour?" Veg*ns are allowed to eat exactly what they want, just like anybody else. It's a dietary choice, not a religion.
Every now an then I like a bit of soy milk for the taste in a frothy coffee or mocha - but only when I'm out. I don't have cereal so I don't know what's its like, but whatever it's like on cereal if you're expecting or want cow juice then a milked soy bean isn't going to cut it. Let us also not forget that some foodstuffs take a bit of getting used to. I mean, we didn't start drinking bear because we like the taste did we?
Who is it harming to call a veggie sausage a sausage? Do the meat product manufacturers think that people are buying the veggie product by accident and not being able to tell the difference?
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instant coffee is real coffee, it tastes of coffee and contains caffeine (unless u took decaf)... almond or soy "milks" have neither the taste nor the nutritional values of dairy product.
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So what? If you want the taste of cow juice take cow juice. Soy milk may not have the same nutritional components as milk but that's not an issue if you eat a balanced diet is it (and that doesn't depend or rely on consuming meat does it, as long as you get your B12?)?
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I wouldn't know, I eat drek and rely on vitamin/mineral supplements to make sure I don't miss anything.
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Back in the 50's after the war sausages were veggie. Nobody complained then but they were bangers.Brian Peacock wrote:Who is it harming to call a veggie sausage a sausage? Do the meat product manufacturers think that people are buying the veggie product by accident and not being able to tell the difference?
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I don't get why some meat-eaters get such a bee in their bonnet about what vegetarians and vegans get up to. I'm starting to think the joke, "How do you know someone is a vegan? Don't worry, they'll let you know." is actually meat-eater projection.
Let them have their veggie schnitzel.
Let them have their veggie schnitzel.
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I will, meat containing Sc hnitzel is infinitely better.
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I used to make a curry every week when living with my old housemate and when I tried a go at vegetarianism for a while I made a vegetarian curry. My housemate yummed it up as usual and I had to ask him if he even noticed their was no meat. He didn't.Brian Peacock wrote:Who is it harming to call a veggie sausage a sausage? Do the meat product manufacturers think that people are buying the veggie product by accident and not being able to tell the difference?
I think your brain can be fooled if you expect a certain thing out of what you're eating.
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Not really - often, vegans are "converts" and like a lot of converts, they tend to want to talk about their enlightenment.Animavore wrote:I don't get why some meat-eaters get such a bee in their bonnet about what vegetarians and vegans get up to. I'm starting to think the joke, "How do you know someone is a vegan? Don't worry, they'll let you know." is actually meat-eater projection.
Let them have their veggie schnitzel.
They also often become vegans for, at least in part, moral reasons ,and they will often note that eating meat is immoral.
And, it's an automatic pain in the ass for a host. If you know a vegan or vegetarian is coming, then to be a good host you have to make something they like too.
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Regarding any milk, I hate it all.
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For lo, it is written, that milk be the unholy semen of the Satan himself.
No really, it is written.
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Thant can't be, for it is written, lo, and thou shalt milk thy kine and from the milk make delicious Cheese.
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