College or Daycare? What difference does it make?

[pErvinalia]

Are you looking to get suspended?

This, and your 'bailout clause' (calling anyone who you don't wish to treat respectfully a 'troll') tell me all I need to know about the strength of your position. Hell, you don't even know if we disagree, or on what, you just flee into your bailout and claim some kind of moral victory.

Great job, pErvin! You win! You get to go colour, and watch puppy videos.

I love how these folks need a college program to help them color to relieve stress. I googled "online coloring pages" and got hundreds that can be printed out.https://www.google.com/search?q=adult+c ... ring+pages

There is something really weird about this Progressively Triggered movement.

What does colouring in have to do with being "triggered"?

The Progressively Triggered is the faction that loves coloring book programs, just as they love "safe rooms" to keep adults "safe" from the threat that someone might utter words they don't like.

So everyone who colours in is a "Progressively Triggered" (whatever that is)? Actually, don't answer that. I can see another torturing of the English language about to come up.

[pErvinalia]

LOL - coloring books are therapeutic...and, it just so happens, I have made line of very special therapeutic coloring books - look at my white lab coat!

That'll be $19.95 for book 1 of my 10 book series, and my special ergonomically designed crayons in politically correct colors are $10 each for a box of six.

No, no, the dollar store coloring books and $1.50 box of Crayolas don't have the same therapeutic effect. Mine are specially designed to help you bear the burden of registering for classes, picking a major and studying for exams.

I provided two mental health professionals describing the benefits of the practice. Your conspiracy theory is lazy.

It wasn't my theory. Get your facts straight.

You subscribe to it. That's even worse. You let someone else do the lazy thinking for you, and then you just lazily hopped on board because it saves you having to actually address the fact that colouring in is an accepted method for simple mindfullness/meditation.

[Forty Two]

I couldn't be arsed addressing your longer post. It's the usual torturing of the English language and logic. But briefly, YOU claimed that colouring was the only destress service at the uni. I wrote: " How do you know that they aren't provided other methods to destress as well? " And you replied with: "Because I read the articles about it the program." And you are lying (as usual) by trying to assert that I made a positive assertion. I NEVER said it wasn't the only destress service. Stop fucking making shit up for once in your life.

You're lying again.

If you think there were or might be other destress programs being offered by the schools referenced in the OP, then bring forth the evidence. I have looked, and found nothing. I cannot prove the negative "there aren't any other programs" because (a) that's not my point anyway, it's your point that the university is or may be offering other programs - I don't care if they're offering other dumb programs and I've already explained that, and (b) I did try to check your assertion that there are or might be other programs, and there is no evidence out there that I can find to show other programs.

If you can find some other programs, give us the link.

And regarding Uni in Australia, I'm not talking about enrolling in a sports course. I'm talking about being able to use (some of) the university sporting facilities whenever I liked.

Everyone having equal access to the library, the gym, or the soccer/football field is not the same thing as a specifica program of doling out coloring books and crayons as a destress therapy.

If I was feeling stressed I could go and shoot hoops on the uni basketball courts. If I was stressed I could go and bowl a few overs in the cricket nets. I could go and kick a soccer ball around. Play baseball. Any number of things.

Like.... coloring.... if you wanted to play baseball, you'd have your own glove, and you'd go out there and play. If you want to color, buy your own fucking book. You could go play hockey, but the university isn't going to hand you pads and skates for you to play goalie for your pick-up team.

[pErvinalia]

Are you looking to get suspended?

This, and your 'bailout clause' (calling anyone who you don't wish to treat respectfully a 'troll') tell me all I need to know about the strength of your position. Hell, you don't even know if we disagree, or on what, you just flee into your bailout and claim some kind of moral victory.

Great job, pErvin! You win! You get to go colour, and watch puppy videos.

You and your bum chum Meeky just can't help but whine incessantly, can you? The irony of MRA's and liberals criticising SJW's for whining is just too much.

Whoa!!! Whoa!!! Hold it right there, buddy.

SOME Men's Rights Activists...

SOME liberals....

When you say "MRAs and liberals" you're referring to "all of them" and you need to properly refer to only those MRAs and liberals who are actually doing or saying what you're alleging.

No I'm not. FFS, learn how to speak English.

And, you accused Meeky and Cunt of whining "incessantly?" You're saying that they are whining constantly, without interruption?

Yes I am. That's all they do as far as I can tell.

[Forty Two]

LOL - coloring books are therapeutic...and, it just so happens, I have made line of very special therapeutic coloring books - look at my white lab coat!

That'll be $19.95 for book 1 of my 10 book series, and my special ergonomically designed crayons in politically correct colors are $10 each for a box of six.

No, no, the dollar store coloring books and $1.50 box of Crayolas don't have the same therapeutic effect. Mine are specially designed to help you bear the burden of registering for classes, picking a major and studying for exams.

I provided two mental health professionals describing the benefits of the practice. Your conspiracy theory is lazy.

It wasn't my theory. Get your facts straight.

You subscribe to it.

I do? Where did I say that? I don't know if Cunt was right. He said the neuro-whatever had a coloring book she was hawking. I did not subscribe to that. I don't know. What I posted was making light of it - carrying forward the idea that the doctor was hawking a book, like when doctors sell products on t.v. for back relief and they're hawking their latest "copper fit" back brace.

That's even worse.

Oh, fuck off.

You let someone else do the lazy thinking for you,

Let him? He has as much right to post here as you or anyone else. I don't "let" him post what he wanted. I just read it, and made a funny based on it.

and then you just lazily hopped on board because it saves you having to actually address the fact that colouring in is an accepted method for simple mindfullness/meditation.

I never denied that coloring is an "accepted" (by some --be careful now -- it's not "accepted by everybody" and I know you're sensitive to those kinds of generalization issues...). Yes, SOME people accept that coloring is a method for simple mindfulness/meditation. Sure. A ton of things are accepted (by some) in a similar fashion. Writing in a diary, for example, is a good form of self-reflection and mindfulness, and can reduce stress. The fact that some people accept that as a method is not a reason to provide free ergonomic pens and diary books. People can get their own pens and diaries.

[pErvinalia]

I couldn't be arsed addressing your longer post. It's the usual torturing of the English language and logic. But briefly, YOU claimed that colouring was the only destress service at the uni. I wrote: " How do you know that they aren't provided other methods to destress as well? " And you replied with: "Because I read the articles about it the program." And you are lying (as usual) by trying to assert that I made a positive assertion. I NEVER said it wasn't the only destress service. Stop fucking making shit up for once in your life.

You're lying again.

Provide the evidence where I said that colouring wasn't the only destressing service, or STFU. I never claimed that, and you simply won't find any evidence of it. You have wholly extracted that straight out of your festering arse.

If you think there were or might be other destress programs being offered by the schools referenced in the OP, then bring forth the evidence.

Why would I do that? I haven't claimed that there are other ones. You really do struggle with basic English, don't you?

I have looked, and found nothing. I cannot prove the negative "there aren't any other programs" because (a) that's not my point anyway,

Lying again. I just provided you with the quotes where you agreed with my assessment of your position that colouring in was the only destress service.

it's your point that the university is or may be offering other programs

Stop lying FFS.

And regarding Uni in Australia, I'm not talking about enrolling in a sports course. I'm talking about being able to use (some of) the university sporting facilities whenever I liked.

Everyone having equal access to the library, the gym, or the soccer/football field is not the same thing as a specifica program of doling out coloring books and crayons as a destress therapy.

Bullshit. Not everyone is going to enjoy playing basketball. Under your retarded whinge basketball shouldn't be available for people to enjoy because not everyone gets a benefit out of it.

If I was feeling stressed I could go and shoot hoops on the uni basketball courts. If I was stressed I could go and bowl a few overs in the cricket nets. I could go and kick a soccer ball around. Play baseball. Any number of things.

Like.... coloring.... if you wanted to play baseball, you'd have your own glove, and you'd go out there and play. If you want to color, buy your own fucking book. You could go play hockey, but the university isn't going to hand you pads and skates for you to play goalie for your pick-up team.

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You really have no idea about the rest of the world, do you? The uni provided basket balls, soccer balls, and the courts and the ovals.

[Forty Two]

Are you looking to get suspended?

This, and your 'bailout clause' (calling anyone who you don't wish to treat respectfully a 'troll') tell me all I need to know about the strength of your position. Hell, you don't even know if we disagree, or on what, you just flee into your bailout and claim some kind of moral victory.

Great job, pErvin! You win! You get to go colour, and watch puppy videos.

You and your bum chum Meeky just can't help but whine incessantly, can you? The irony of MRA's and liberals criticising SJW's for whining is just too much.

Whoa!!! Whoa!!! Hold it right there, buddy.

SOME Men's Rights Activists...

SOME liberals....

When you say "MRAs and liberals" you're referring to "all of them" and you need to properly refer to only those MRAs and liberals who are actually doing or saying what you're alleging.

No I'm not. FFS, learn how to speak English.

QED

And, you accused Meeky and Cunt of whining "incessantly?" You're saying that they are whining constantly, without interruption?

Yes I am. That's all they do as far as I can tell.

You must not be reading their posts, but still you make conclusive declarations about what they are writing. I'm not surprised, as it is your practice. You like to just declare people wrong without reading their posts, and here you're probably doing the same thing -- you read something you think is a whine, and then you have declared that they're doing it constantly, without interruption (i.e. incessantly), even though everyone can see they're at most whining sometimes, here and there.

Learn to read English, indeed.....

[pErvinalia]

LOL - coloring books are therapeutic...and, it just so happens, I have made line of very special therapeutic coloring books - look at my white lab coat!

That'll be $19.95 for book 1 of my 10 book series, and my special ergonomically designed crayons in politically correct colors are $10 each for a box of six.

No, no, the dollar store coloring books and $1.50 box of Crayolas don't have the same therapeutic effect. Mine are specially designed to help you bear the burden of registering for classes, picking a major and studying for exams.

I provided two mental health professionals describing the benefits of the practice. Your conspiracy theory is lazy.

It wasn't my theory. Get your facts straight.

You subscribe to it.

I do? Where did I say that?

Oh ffs. This is getting more retarded than even your usual level. http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 5#p1679462

and then you just lazily hopped on board because it saves you having to actually address the fact that colouring in is an accepted method for simple mindfullness/meditation.

I never denied that coloring is an "accepted" (by some --be careful now -- it's not "accepted by everybody" and I know you're sensitive to those kinds of generalization issues...).

So why did you denigrate it as a "toddler activity"? Stop with the pretence. You don't accept it as a valid method of simple meditation.

And again, you show you still don't understand how English works. What I said doesn't imply that it is "accepted by everybody." You really fucking struggle with this stuff, don't you?

Yes, SOME people accept that coloring is a method for simple mindfulness/meditation. Sure. A ton of things are accepted (by some) in a similar fashion. Writing in a diary, for example, is a good form of self-reflection and mindfulness, and can reduce stress. The fact that some people accept that as a method is not a reason to provide free ergonomic pens and diary books. People can get their own pens and diaries.

Stop whining, FFS.

[Forty Two]

I couldn't be arsed addressing your longer post. It's the usual torturing of the English language and logic. But briefly, YOU claimed that colouring was the only destress service at the uni. I wrote: " How do you know that they aren't provided other methods to destress as well? " And you replied with: "Because I read the articles about it the program." And you are lying (as usual) by trying to assert that I made a positive assertion. I NEVER said it wasn't the only destress service. Stop fucking making shit up for once in your life.

You're lying again.

Provide the evidence where I said that colouring wasn't the only destressing service, or STFU. I never claimed that, and you simply won't find any evidence of it. You have wholly extracted that straight out of your festering arse.

So, since you're not claiming that the coloring book wasn't the only destressing service - I'll take your statement in that regard here as a clarification. If I ever accused of making that claim, i withdraw it and I wholly accept that you never claimed that coloring books were the only destressing service.

Likewise, I never made that affirmative claim -- that they were the only destressing service. I only said that the articles only referred to the coloring book service and that I've looked and cannot find any evidence of any other destressing service.

So, until some evidence comes up about non-coloring book destressing services, I can only assume that the coloring service is it. Caveat being, as always, that new evidence can modify that understanding.

If you think there were or might be other destress programs being offered by the schools referenced in the OP, then bring forth the evidence.

Why would I do that? I haven't claimed that there are other ones. You really do struggle with basic English, don't you?

You would do that if you were making the assertion. Since you're not, then don't do it. But, that just leaves the coloring book program, which we have evidence exists, and no evidence of any other programs. So, what's your fucking point in asking me how I know there aren't any others? One, I've not claimed there weren't any others. Two, since you asked, I told you no other programs were mentioned in the articles i posted, AND I looked for others and found nothing. Could there be some others? I don't know. But, without evidence, I have no reason to believe.

I have looked, and found nothing. I cannot prove the negative "there aren't any other programs" because (a) that's not my point anyway,

Lying again. I just provided you with the quotes where you agreed with my assessment of your position that colouring in was the only destress service.

You're illiterate, apparently.

it's your point that the university is or may be offering other programs

Stop lying FFS.

Such a douche...

....not you. I was talking about someone else.

And regarding Uni in Australia, I'm not talking about enrolling in a sports course. I'm talking about being able to use (some of) the university sporting facilities whenever I liked.

Everyone having equal access to the library, the gym, or the soccer/football field is not the same thing as a specifica program of doling out coloring books and crayons as a destress therapy.

Bullshit. Not everyone is going to enjoy playing basketball. Under your retarded whinge basketball shouldn't be available for people to enjoy because not everyone gets a benefit out of it.

Nobody's buying the students basketballs, uniforms and sneakers. You might be able to grab a ball or something, but it's not yours. You have to give it back. You can't give back coloring books.

The gym is open to all students because all students pay for it. There is plenty to do on the basketball court besides play basketball. People can go hang out there. Or play basketball. Or play floor hockey. Or make up a game, like Baseketball or HORSE and dick around. They can go there and just meditate quietly. Fuck, they can even go there to color, if they want to and nobody is using it.

[pErvinalia]

This, and your 'bailout clause' (calling anyone who you don't wish to treat respectfully a 'troll') tell me all I need to know about the strength of your position. Hell, you don't even know if we disagree, or on what, you just flee into your bailout and claim some kind of moral victory.

Great job, pErvin! You win! You get to go colour, and watch puppy videos.

You and your bum chum Meeky just can't help but whine incessantly, can you? The irony of MRA's and liberals criticising SJW's for whining is just too much.

Whoa!!! Whoa!!! Hold it right there, buddy.

SOME Men's Rights Activists...

SOME liberals....

When you say "MRAs and liberals" you're referring to "all of them" and you need to properly refer to only those MRAs and liberals who are actually doing or saying what you're alleging.

No I'm not. FFS, learn how to speak English.

QED

Fucking what? Yes, it's a QED of your inability to understand basic English. What I said doesn't imply "all of them". This is simple English that you can't grasp.

And, you accused Meeky and Cunt of whining "incessantly?" You're saying that they are whining constantly, without interruption?

Yes I am. That's all they do as far as I can tell.

You must not be reading their posts, but still you make conclusive declarations about what they are writing. I'm not surprised, as it is your practice. You like to just declare people wrong without reading their posts,..

Sorry, stopped reading at this point..

[pErvinalia]

I couldn't be arsed addressing your longer post. It's the usual torturing of the English language and logic. But briefly, YOU claimed that colouring was the only destress service at the uni. I wrote: " How do you know that they aren't provided other methods to destress as well? " And you replied with: "Because I read the articles about it the program." And you are lying (as usual) by trying to assert that I made a positive assertion. I NEVER said it wasn't the only destress service. Stop fucking making shit up for once in your life.

You're lying again.

Provide the evidence where I said that colouring wasn't the only destressing service, or STFU. I never claimed that, and you simply won't find any evidence of it. You have wholly extracted that straight out of your festering arse.

So, since you're not claiming that the coloring book wasn't the only destressing service - I'll take your statement in that regard here as a clarification. If I ever accused of making that claim, i withdraw it and I wholly accept that you never claimed that coloring books were the only destressing service.

Well, I've seen it all! 42 (sort of) admitted that he might be wrong. What would be better is for you to go back and definitely conclude that you were speaking unmitigated bullshit, and to stop repeatedly doing this sort of thing in the future.

Likewise, I never made that affirmative claim -- that they were the only destressing service.

Yes you did! Stop fucking lying. I provided the quote for you.

So, until some evidence comes up about non-coloring book destressing services, I can only assume that the coloring service is it. Caveat being, as always, that new evidence can modify that understanding.

You know damn well that universities provide all sorts of services to students. You only have a problem with this one as it offends your conservative sensibilities.

But, that just leaves the coloring book program, which we have evidence exists, and no evidence of any other programs. So, what's your fucking point in asking me how I know there aren't any others?

Because every university that I've had anything to do with provides a host of services other than just courses to its students. I would be very surprised indeed if this was the only service they provided to students.

I have looked, and found nothing. I cannot prove the negative "there aren't any other programs" because (a) that's not my point anyway,

Lying again. I just provided you with the quotes where you agreed with my assessment of your position that colouring in was the only destress service.

You're illiterate, apparently.

Oh the irony.

it's your point that the university is or may be offering other programs

Stop lying FFS.

Such a douche...

....not you. I was talking about someone else.

You really are cruising for a suspension, aren't you?

And regarding Uni in Australia, I'm not talking about enrolling in a sports course. I'm talking about being able to use (some of) the university sporting facilities whenever I liked.

Everyone having equal access to the library, the gym, or the soccer/football field is not the same thing as a specifica program of doling out coloring books and crayons as a destress therapy.

Bullshit. Not everyone is going to enjoy playing basketball. Under your retarded whinge basketball shouldn't be available for people to enjoy because not everyone gets a benefit out of it.

Nobody's buying the students basketballs,

Where do you think the basketballs come from? They don't just grow on trees. The university pays for them.

uniforms and sneakers.

You don't need a uniform and sneakers to go and shoot hoops. FFS, stop grasping so desperately at straws.

You might be able to grab a ball or something, but it's not yours. You have to give it back. You can't give back coloring books.

The gym is open to all students because all students pay for it. There is plenty to do on the basketball court besides play basketball. People can go hang out there. Or play basketball. Or play floor hockey. Or make up a game, like Baseketball or HORSE and dick around. They can go there and just meditate quietly. Fuck, they can even go there to color, if they want to and nobody is using it.

Your own retarded point can be used to rebut that. Not everyone is going want to go and use a basketball court. Therefore, 42 "logic" dictates that it shouldn't be provided to anyone.

[Cunt]

You know, with all the arguments about argument style, word choice, semantics and such, I don't remember which side of the issue you are both on...

Or what the point of disagreement is...

I'll start again, if it helps - Colouring books are fine, and if someone needs them, even needful, but I don't understand how they were chosen as a destressor. While I am not a physiologist, I would guess that any de-stressor would have to demonstrate efficacy to be considered. Since the only stresses one can objectively measure are physiological, I would pit any of your best suggestions against the physiological effects of a single-serving of lube, and a good wank. If it doesn't de-stress people more effectively than a masturbation session, then I would say that it is a bit of a stretch to recommend it so widely.

[Woodbutcher]

You know, with all the arguments about argument style, word choice, semantics and such, I don't remember which side of the issue you are both on...

Or what the point of disagreement is...

I'll start again, if it helps - Colouring books are fine, and if someone needs them, even needful, but I don't understand how they were chosen as a destressor. While I am not a physiologist, I would guess that any de-stressor would have to demonstrate efficacy to be considered. Since the only stresses one can objectively measure are physiological, I would pit any of your best suggestions against the physiological effects of a single-serving of lube, and a good wank. If it doesn't de-stress people more effectively than a masturbation session, then I would say that it is a bit of a stretch to recommend it so widely.

Exactly what I said. More eruditely put, but makes the same point.

[pErvinalia]

I guess the reason they were chosen is because of a cost-benefit analysis. They are cheap, argued to be effective, and simple. No expertise is necessary to use them or to instruct anyone on how to use them. It's basically "meditation for dummies", so to speak.

[Cunt]

I guess the reason they were chosen is because of a cost-benefit analysis. They are cheap, argued to be effective, and simple. No expertise is necessary to use them or to instruct anyone on how to use them. It's basically "meditation for dummies", so to speak.

Wait - are you referring to the VERY inexpensive masturbation? Or the ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more costly neurologist-authored colouring books with crayons?