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by Tyrannical » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:59 am
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by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:04 am
What if you were to accept that there aren't really genetic races that account for different behaviours? Would it change your life? I'd suggest it wouldn't.
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by Tyrannical » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:25 am
rEvolutionist wrote:What if you were to accept that there aren't really genetic races that account for different behaviours? Would it change your life? I'd suggest it wouldn't.
I never used to be a racist back when I was younger. But that was when I was a good Christian and believed in creationism. If you actually believe in evolution and natural selection, you're either racist or just fooling yourself.
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by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:27 am
No you're not. And you didn't answer the question.
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by Tyrannical » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:42 am
rEvolutionist wrote:No you're not. And you didn't answer the question.
Yes, it would change my behavior. I'm racist because I believe the scientific evidence overwhelmingly supports that belief. Anti-racists only have 30 to 40 years left until we have learned enough about the human genomes to not only prove it with 100% certainty, but to point to the exact genetic sequences that cause it.
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by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:26 am
It's not a problem of genetics. It's a problem of evidentially tying genetics to certain behaviours. If the causal link doesn't exist, no amount of knowledge of genetics will make the link suddenly appear.
So, regarding your behaviour, how would it change?
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by Tyrannical » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:45 am
rEvolutionist wrote:It's not a problem of genetics. It's a problem of evidentially tying genetics to certain behaviours. If the causal link doesn't exist, no amount of knowledge of genetics will make the link suddenly appear.
So, regarding your behaviour, how would it change?
Ummm, there is an entire field of study called behavioral genetics.
Behavioural geneticists are active in a variety of scientific disciplines including biology, medicine, pharmacology, psychiatry, and psychology; thus, behavioural-genetic research is published in a variety of scientific journals, including Nature, Nature Genetics, and Science. Journals that specifically publish research in behavioural genetics include Behavior Genetics, Genes, Brain and Behavior, Journal of Neurogenetics, Molecular Psychiatry, Psychiatric Genetics, and Twin Research and Human Genetics.
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by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:40 am
Sure, but knowing gene 'abc' exists and behaviour 'xyz' exists doesn't tell you anything about causality. If you can't test a null hypothesis, then you can't establish any link. And remember, it gets even more complex when you consider that most traits are not controlled by a single gene. They are controlled by gene complexes and also things like epigenetics.
And again, you didn't answer the question. How would your behaviour change if you decided not to be a racist?
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by cronus » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:50 am
It's all made up rubbish, race - ask a baby Tyrannical? Thirty or forty years from now when folks can intermarry willy-nilly with each other across the world and the rising global citizens hybrid vigour is seen for the advantage it is....racialism will be a distant memory of a more primitive time.
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by Tyrannical » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:58 am
rEvolutionist wrote:Sure, but knowing gene 'abc' exists and behaviour 'xyz' exists doesn't tell you anything about causality. If you can't test a null hypothesis, then you can't establish any link. And remember, it gets even more complex when you consider that most traits are not controlled by a single gene. They are controlled by gene complexes and also things like epigenetics.
We're several decades away from predicting behavior based on identified genes and gene expression. But we don't need to know that to know behavioral genetics is true because we do understand inheritability. The less fancy name for behavioral genetics when applied to animals is domestication or animal husbandry, and no one questions that is real.
And again, you didn't answer the question. How would your behaviour change if you decided not to be a racist?
Probably not a lot except for the non-racist part

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by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:16 am
Tyrannical wrote:rEvolutionist wrote:Sure, but knowing gene 'abc' exists and behaviour 'xyz' exists doesn't tell you anything about causality. If you can't test a null hypothesis, then you can't establish any link. And remember, it gets even more complex when you consider that most traits are not controlled by a single gene. They are controlled by gene complexes and also things like epigenetics.
We're several decades away from predicting behavior based on identified genes and gene expression. But we don't need to know that to know behavioral genetics is true because we do understand inheritability. The less fancy name for behavioral genetics when applied to animals is domestication or animal husbandry, and no one questions that is real.
Going from A -> B is a different question than going from B -> A. That some traits are hereditary says nothing about whether a specific or all traits are hereditary. You still need to show the link. You haven't thought about this very much, have you?
And again, you didn't answer the question. How would your behaviour change if you decided not to be a racist?
Probably not a lot except for the non-racist part

The fact that you keep avoiding this question probably shows that it wouldn't change your life much. I could imagine if you employ people, you might currently pick your employees on race first before other factors. But unless you are in the KKK or are overtly racist to people to their faces, your life probably isn't going to change much.
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by Galaxian » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:59 am
Tyrannical wrote:I saw a few pure blood abbos when I was in Australia. They are clearly not modern humans.
Yes, they are actually a hybrid of Homo Sapiens & Homo Erectus. We have some where I live

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by pErvinalia » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:04 am
I think you are thinking of Denisovans. And to say that they are a "hybrid" is a bit misleading. Something like only 3% of the Aboriginal/Melanesian genome is Denisovan. Likewise, I think there's similar proportions of Neanderthal in other human populations around the world.
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by rainbow » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:11 am
Tyrannical wrote: If you actually believe in evolution and natural selection, you're either racist or just fooling yourself.
In your case it is both.
The sad thing about racists is that they are overcompensating for their inferiority complex.
Because they know deep down that they are trash, they hope to find members of other communities that they can look down on.
I put their innate stupidity down to genetics.
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by rainbow » Fri Apr 29, 2016 8:13 am
Galaxian wrote:Tyrannical wrote:I saw a few pure blood abbos when I was in Australia. They are clearly not modern humans.
Yes, they are actually a hybrid of Homo Sapiens & Homo Erectus. We have some where I live

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