http://thehill.com/polls/236627-hill-po ... -for-worseHill Poll: Majority believe Obama has changed country for worse
By Sheldon Alberts - 07/09/12 05:00 AM ET
Two-thirds of likely voters say President Obama has kept his 2008 campaign promise to change America — but it’s changed for the worse, according to a sizable majority.
A new poll for The Hill found 56 percent of likely voters believe Obama’s first term has transformed the nation in a negative way, compared to 35 percent who believe the country has changed for the better under his leadership.
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After a careful analysis of all the pertinent information and an impartial weighing up of the character, history and proposed policies of Romney, the conclusion I have come to is that the fundamental issue with him is that he is a git.
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You mean you won't be welcoming him with open arms next week?Clinton Huxley wrote:After a careful analysis of all the pertinent information and an impartial weighing up of the character, history and proposed policies of Romney, the conclusion I have come to is that the fundamental issue with him is that he is a git.

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Good grief, they'll let any riff-raff into the country these days. Hope he gets a 4 hour delay at Border Control.maiforpeace wrote:You mean you won't be welcoming him with open arms next week?Clinton Huxley wrote:After a careful analysis of all the pertinent information and an impartial weighing up of the character, history and proposed policies of Romney, the conclusion I have come to is that the fundamental issue with him is that he is a git.![]()
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It's probably about as important as Obama's education records.maiforpeace wrote:Oops!
Sources: Romney Wouldn't Have Run If He Thought He'd Have To Release Tax Info
News Flash: Romney is a rich, successful businessman. Film at 11.
Update: Internal Revenue Service seems to be fine with Romeny's tax returns. Shocking.
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I'll trade Mitt's tax returns for a copy of Obama's birth certificate - oh, wait, he already provided that.Coito ergo sum wrote:It's probably about as important as Obama's education records.maiforpeace wrote:Oops!
Sources: Romney Wouldn't Have Run If He Thought He'd Have To Release Tax Info
News Flash: Romney is a rich, successful businessman. Film at 11.
Update: Internal Revenue Service seems to be fine with Romeny's tax returns. Shocking.
What's the big deal then? Why can't we see them?
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Is there anything besides riff-raff in the Kingdom?Clinton Huxley wrote:Good grief, they'll let any riff-raff into the country these days. Hope he gets a 4 hour delay at Border Control.maiforpeace wrote:You mean you won't be welcoming him with open arms next week?Clinton Huxley wrote:After a careful analysis of all the pertinent information and an impartial weighing up of the character, history and proposed policies of Romney, the conclusion I have come to is that the fundamental issue with him is that he is a git.![]()
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I would imagine because he doesn't want every K-1 and every account portrayed as if he has done something wrong by being successful and putting money in bank accounts. The Obama camp doesn't think Romney is "the problem" because he did anything wrong or illegal. They think he's "the problem" because he was financially successful.maiforpeace wrote:I'll trade Mitt's tax returns for a copy of Obama's birth certificate - oh, wait, he already provided that.Coito ergo sum wrote:It's probably about as important as Obama's education records.maiforpeace wrote:Oops!
Sources: Romney Wouldn't Have Run If He Thought He'd Have To Release Tax Info
News Flash: Romney is a rich, successful businessman. Film at 11.
Update: Internal Revenue Service seems to be fine with Romeny's tax returns. Shocking.
What's the big deal then? Why can't we see them?
I'd think he ought to just release them. But, frankly, it's all smoke and mirrors. We've never gotten any information from anyone's tax returns that material impacted that person's credentials or qualifications for President. Some candidates released a lot, others not as many. Mitt has released a couple of years worth, as I understand it.
If there is anything wrong in the tax returns, you can bet the IRS would know about it. Anyone in that income range is in the "high risk" for audits. They give that level of income taxpayer the anal probe. So, there isn't anything criminal or fraudulent to find there. If there was, the IRS would find it. This is just a way to get political mileage out of Romney having an offshore company some income from a Swiss bank account.
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They think he's the problem because he was financially successful?
Romney's campaign can do their own spin-doctoring of what the President thinks, they don't need bollocks like that from you.
Maybe "the problem" is that he paid even less than 14% in taxes in some years, maybe next to nothing, and many voters will not think very well of someone who not only has fewer obligations but who skirts the IRS in ways they can't ever do.
Romney's campaign can do their own spin-doctoring of what the President thinks, they don't need bollocks like that from you.

Maybe "the problem" is that he paid even less than 14% in taxes in some years, maybe next to nothing, and many voters will not think very well of someone who not only has fewer obligations but who skirts the IRS in ways they can't ever do.
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Yes, of course. They try to portray "Bain Capital" as something wrong in and of itself. http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/16/opinion/g ... index.htmlIan wrote:They think he's the problem because he was financially successful?
The 'bama camp does its own spin doctoring, and they're running a decidedly dirty campaign at the moment.Ian wrote: Romney's campaign can do their own spin-doctoring of what the President thinks, they don't need bollocks like that from you.
If you show me a Democrat who is paying more in taxes than they legally have to, I'll eat my hat.Ian wrote:
Maybe "the problem" is that he paid even less than 14% in taxes in some years, maybe next to nothing, and many voters will not think very well of someone not only has fewer obligations but who skirts the IRS in ways they can't ever do.
Of course he is paying as little as he can. The problem is not with Romney paying what the tax code says he's allowed to pay. The problem is with the flippin' tax code, which needs to be simplified.
Frankly, if a candidate was lawfully obligated to pay 15% effective tax rate, but opted to say "no no - let me pay 30% instead" -- I'd suggest that is not a point in his favor.
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One third of Republicans think Romney should release his tax records...this is due to Obama's "dirty"campaign, right? 

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Asking that he release his tax records is not "dirty." They're nonsense about Bain capital and such is. Anderson Cooper and David Gergen, not Republicans, agreed that what the Barack Obama Campaign is doing with their “Romney is a felon” attack is simply not true, and beyond that, is an “over-reach” and as Gergen put it politely, “a very rough form of politics.”maiforpeace wrote:One third of Republicans think Romney should release his tax records...this is due to Obama's "dirty"campaign, right?
This campaign is going to get pretty ugly.
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Obama will likely win due to the ignorance and blind party loyalty of minority voters. And I don't mean that as a judgement; I mean that as an honesst assesment of the situation.
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