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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Feb 18, 2020 4:47 pm

No surprises here, just Fox News doing its thing: knowingly disseminating disinformation. It spreads through the right-wing media bubble and next thing you know it's being repeated at random discussion boards.

'Fox News Keeps Rudy Giuliani On-Air Despite Internal "Disinformation" Docs'
Even though internal Fox News documents caution that frequent guests Rudy Giuliani and John Solomon traffic in “disinformation,” the network can’t seem to quit booking them.

Since The Daily Beast first reported on the 162-page document, produced by the network’s research division known as the “Brain Room,” Giuliani—who, according to the briefing, has a “high susceptibility to disinformation”—has made at least four separate appearances on Fox.

And Solomon, whom the documents accused of playing an “indispensable role” in Team Trump’s Ukraine “disinformation campaign,” has popped up twice on the Fox Business Network.

The internal briefing, titled “Ukraine, Disinformation, & the Trump Administration,” accused the former New York City mayor Giuliani of amplifying disinformation pushed by bad-faith Ukrainian actors like former Ukrainain prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko and indicted oligarch Dmytro Firtash. The document also noted Giuliani’s ties to indicted associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, who Murphy writes had “strong reported financial links to Firtash.”

“Reading the timeline in its entirety—not a small task—makes clear the extensive role played by Rudy Giuliani and his associates, Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, in spreading disinformation,” the briefing added.

Despite the network’s own research team preaching caution over Trump’s personal hatchet man peddling conspiracies and agitprop through the media, shows on Fox News and Fox Business Network have continued to host Giuliani for freewheeling interviews in which he has repeatedly (and baselessly) claimed he is in possession of “smoking gun” evidence that proves former Vice President Joe Biden’s son Hunter was involved in criminal activity in Ukraine.

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Post by Cunt » Tue Feb 18, 2020 5:10 pm

A presenter just made the hilarious point that media will stand (OUTraged!) against the death penalty, but not in some other countries.

Death penalty is probably proof of a primitive society that hasn't learned to advance into the modern world.

Canada held a referrendum on the subject years ago, and I remember seeing Calgary papers side-by-side, and one had 'vote yes' in the header, the other 'vote no'.

It was a bit jarring at the time, to see their bias so clearly laid out.
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Post by Cunt » Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:27 pm

Is it possible that a very clear lie, promoted by a biased media, could point out which media companies are 'worst'?
https://www.rt.com/op-ed/481238-assange ... ussia-dnc/

Some are still pushing as hard as they can to make it look like it was Russia. If they do get the truth out, I think it is very bad for the DNC.

In other news, the small matter of the murder of Seth Rich is coming up again.

We'll see I guess.
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Post by Cunt » Thu Feb 20, 2020 8:27 pm

Another response to another clear media smear.

https://www.ts.today/online_content/152 ... me=3.02294

Bettina's own story. (those of you from Australia may have heard of her)
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Post by Seabass » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:07 am

Fox News is a hive of stupidity -- and Trump loves it
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Post by Cunt » Sat Feb 22, 2020 4:27 am

What is a recent, large media smear?

Do they follow patterns?

A few recent ones I can think of...

Jussie Smollett
Nick Sandman
different media treatment of whistleblowers (Voldemort/Assange/FledToRussiaGuy
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Post by Seabass » Wed Feb 26, 2020 7:13 am

Hayes On Whether The American Media Is About To Repeat The Same Mistakes Of 2016


Fox decries “two-tiered” criminal justice system -- when Trump’s allies are the victims
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Post by Cunt » Fri Feb 28, 2020 3:29 pm

Twitter bans Zuby for spewing hate and vitriol.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... a-activist
"It wasn't even a gendered statement, not that it should even matter," Zuby said. "I used it as a synonym for like, 'Yeah, whatever.' I didn't go and research the person I was responding too. Perhaps I should have because they're an antifa activist who spends their time trying to doxx people and get people kicked off platforms that they don't like."
Several Twitter users pointed to instances in which "Pronouns Enforcer" calling people "dude" on many occasions on the social media platform. The account has also used violent rhetoric to attack other users, including one tweet which read: "I now call all antifa groups to consider the TERF (Trans-exclusionary radical feminist) movement to be properly considered to be a white supremacist movement and treated like the Nazi platform that they are. No one gets left behind."
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Post by Hermit » Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:21 pm

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"NOT BIG MAC'S"? What's with that apostrophe? Why could I trust someone to be sufficiently competent to make a good hamberder when they don't even know when the plural of mac is not mac's?
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Post by Cunt » Sat Feb 29, 2020 10:53 pm

A biased media might ignore this report, and it's being held back. Heck, a biased media might even let the government get away with hiding this report.

Or maybe it really is NOT in the public interest. I mean, the government knows, so why bother dumb old citizens with it...?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 44896.html
The government is refusing to release official research on the characteristics of grooming gangs, claiming it is not in the “public interest”.

Survivors accused ministers of making “empty promises”, while a man who prosecuted abusers in Rochdale called for the Home Office to “show some courage and publish” its findings.

It comes after The Independent revealed that almost 19,000 suspected child sexual exploitation victims were identified by local authorities in just one year, sparking renewed calls for prevention efforts.

Sajid Javid promised the review as home secretary in July 2018, pledging that there would be “no no-go areas of inquiry”.

“I will not let cultural or political sensitivities get in the way of understanding the problem and doing something about it,” he said at the time.
Obviously it's tough to examine - I wouldn't want to - but the government agreed to, and now what they have found is so...important that it's supressed, to the chagrin of victims.

I wonder if the BBC (who are maybe biased) will cover this, and pressure the Home Office to stop hiding this report...?
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Post by Woodbutcher » Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:30 pm

I look at the CTV news channel whenever I want news. The American channels are simply propaganda these days, at least CTV is less biased.
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I look at the CTV news channel whenever I want news. The American channels are simply propaganda these days, at least CTV is less biased.
Do they take government money to do their 'objective journalism'?

I bet they do.

Anyway, the best is to find the arguments. I was recently drawn to Rebel News, because of some (probably over-dramatised) confrontations between them and government.

Trudeau tried to have them barred from a debate, without offering a clear reason (fucking cowards) but the judge let them in anyway.

Don't get me wrong - they are as 'right-biased' as could be, but it makes a bit of a nice contrast. Lots of the media joins in condemning the oil sector, for example, but Rebel has me wondering if stopping Canadian oil production is altruistic and 'green', or if foreign interests might be encouraging (maybe even sponsoring) the interference.
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Post by Seabass » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:32 pm

Woodbutcher wrote:
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I look at the CTV news channel whenever I want news. The American channels are simply propaganda these days, at least CTV is less biased.
The 24hr cable news channels are shitty, but the network nightly and weekly news programs aren't so bad...
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Post by Cunt » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:38 pm

Seabass wrote:
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Woodbutcher wrote:
Sun Mar 01, 2020 6:30 pm
I look at the CTV news channel whenever I want news. The American channels are simply propaganda these days, at least CTV is less biased.
The 24hr cable news channels are shitty, but the network nightly and weekly news programs aren't so bad...
Do you use any news rating services?

I've recently been pointed toward newsguard, and have been giving it a browse.
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