"Alt-right" Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.
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Everyone's racist. It's deep in the human genes.
The non-racist individuals in human history, if any ever existed, died out millions of years ago.
These days you have people who hide it, people who don't, and people who pretend to themselves that they are not racist. But they're all racist.
Nobody gave Mohamed Ali a hard time, even though he constantly shouted racist stuff. The Duke of Edinburgh gets away with it, even though he thinks you develop slitty eyes if you live in China.
He's allowed, because he's married to the Queen.
It's all about who you are, not what you are.
The non-racist individuals in human history, if any ever existed, died out millions of years ago.
These days you have people who hide it, people who don't, and people who pretend to themselves that they are not racist. But they're all racist.
Nobody gave Mohamed Ali a hard time, even though he constantly shouted racist stuff. The Duke of Edinburgh gets away with it, even though he thinks you develop slitty eyes if you live in China.
He's allowed, because he's married to the Queen.
It's all about who you are, not what you are.
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If you are going to talk about genetics, race has nothing to do with it. We are predisposed to favour our close kin. That says absolutely nothing about "race" and skin colour. If I married a black person and had a half black baby, I would be closer to it than to some other white person.mistermack wrote:Everyone's racist. It's deep in the human genes.
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Nah, you're just projecting your own views onto everyone else. I am a potpourri of different ethnicities; it's kind of hard to be racist when you don't identify with any one race in particular.mistermack wrote:Everyone's racist. It's deep in the human genes.
The non-racist individuals in human history, if any ever existed, died out millions of years ago.
These days you have people who hide it, people who don't, and people who pretend to themselves that they are not racist. But they're all racist.
Nobody gave Mohamed Ali a hard time, even though he constantly shouted racist stuff. The Duke of Edinburgh gets away with it, even though he thinks you develop slitty eyes if you live in China.
He's allowed, because he's married to the Queen.
It's all about who you are, not what you are.
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Re: "Alt-right" Parading Ignorance, Stupidity, Malice, Etc.
Is being a culturally catholic atheist a race?
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Clinton Huxley » 21 Jun 2012 » 14:10:36 GMT
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Sure was helpful labeling all of you 'racist'. It has demonstrated clearly to me how much the label means.
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Wow, that's some deepity thinking there, Cunt. Any more gems you can impart?
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That's not what you said. You said you suspect people like Jim (because he labelled someone racist) as being racist.Cunt wrote:Oh, you are allowed to label people. I just think it's a shit idea.

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We need a new word for these things. Like groupists or setism. Even if they'd would come with their inevitable opposing stances: non-groupism, hard-setians, etc.Cunt wrote:Sure was helpful labeling all of you 'racist'. It has demonstrated clearly to me how much the label means.
Perhaps the power of the 'racist' label has been diluted by over-use and misapplication, but it's still exactly the right word to use sometimes. I guess it's a matter of asking or telling why: "Tell me why you'd call me a racist...", "Your a racist because...." or whatever. But as a term it's not ambiguous - it's pretty particular. Defining a group or set of people, even really badly, doesn't make you a racist, just as coming up with a definition doesn't make a group (and if anyone can tell me what a race is it probably doesn't make one of those either). Proper racists tend to do a bit more work than just labelling people, which is what makes them easier to spot.
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It would appear that fighting the SJW crowd brings out the schizophrenic in us. I've had similar issues in the past. He's probably just crawled so far up their ass in an attempt to understand them that he's forgotten the simple concepts we've all learned and take for granted. Things like being able to say "Hey that fucktard's racist!" and to know exactly what we mean.
A clear example may help you snap out of it cunt. One day while I was visiting my grandma some guy working on her neighbor's fence approached me like he knew me and asked, "Aren't you blahblahblah's grandson"? --yeah "Blah, blah, blah" -- "Blah, blah, blah" -- "Don't worry, this fence will look like white people built it!"
That guy's a fucking racist! Wait, my grandpa was racist too!
A clear example may help you snap out of it cunt. One day while I was visiting my grandma some guy working on her neighbor's fence approached me like he knew me and asked, "Aren't you blahblahblah's grandson"? --yeah "Blah, blah, blah" -- "Blah, blah, blah" -- "Don't worry, this fence will look like white people built it!"
That guy's a fucking racist! Wait, my grandpa was racist too!

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Brian Peacock wrote:. But as a term it's not ambiguous - it's pretty particular.
Yep. Ever notice how it's usually people more likely to be bigoted who complain about terms? It's the same as how comfortable middle/upper class liberals denigrate people who don't conform to their views of politeness in speech. It's easy to be relaxed and condescending when you are in a position of comfort/power. Other people, usually the targets of these people's bigotry and class warfare, don't have that luxury. Tone policing is just a shameless diversionary tactic.
Oh, and what Sean said.
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No, being anti-religion, or even anti a specific religion is not racist. However, quite a few right wing groups clearly conflate anti-muslim rhetoric with anti-non-white beliefs, so the 2 are intersecting sets...
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Racism is a natural instinct. Just because you choose to suppress it, doesn't make you a non racist.
We're all racists.
You can act straight all your life, but if you fancy the same sex, you're still gay.
Same with racism.
There's nothing wrong with being born gay, and there's nothing wrong with being born racist.
In any case, there is no right or wrong. All there is is the current consensus. Or rather, the consensus of those who have the power to control the indoctrination of the masses.
Since race is an abstract fluid grey area, not a scientific black and white, the racist instinct behaves differently in every individual.
Most of the people on this site who argue against racism hold that view because they've been indoctrinated in a certain way. By the continual drip drip that you were fed at school, and are now being fed by the media. If you'd been born in Germany 100 years ago, you would be far more racist. That's just a fact. If you really can kid yourself that you would not have been racist, you're just a self-made idiot.
Not all people in Nazi Germany acted racist, but then again, not all had the same upbringing.
In any case, when things are going well, it's fairly natural to say, "live and let live".
But when things are going badly, really badly, then the true nature of people starts to come out.
We're all racists.
You can act straight all your life, but if you fancy the same sex, you're still gay.
Same with racism.
There's nothing wrong with being born gay, and there's nothing wrong with being born racist.
In any case, there is no right or wrong. All there is is the current consensus. Or rather, the consensus of those who have the power to control the indoctrination of the masses.
Since race is an abstract fluid grey area, not a scientific black and white, the racist instinct behaves differently in every individual.
Most of the people on this site who argue against racism hold that view because they've been indoctrinated in a certain way. By the continual drip drip that you were fed at school, and are now being fed by the media. If you'd been born in Germany 100 years ago, you would be far more racist. That's just a fact. If you really can kid yourself that you would not have been racist, you're just a self-made idiot.
Not all people in Nazi Germany acted racist, but then again, not all had the same upbringing.
In any case, when things are going well, it's fairly natural to say, "live and let live".
But when things are going badly, really badly, then the true nature of people starts to come out.
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Argumentum ad rectum...
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We are all born Nobel prize winners. We just suppress it.
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ad rectum? surely you mean ab ano, you mean the origin rather than the target, right?Seabass wrote:Argumentum ad rectum...
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