Is democracy too important to leave to the peeps?

[Scot Dutchy]

Again, from what I've read, some of those issues of the EU encroaching on aspects of national sovereignty were important components in mustering the leave vote, and I can understand why they were considered valid arguments for leaving.

Leave brought up all the stupid regulations that have been activated over the years but of course they forget to tell which ones were deactivated.
Also playing the racist card regarding the ECHR which has nothing to do with the EU but who cares Joe Bloggs in Sunderland cant see the difference as long it starts with Europe.

[Scot Dutchy]

When EU courts and tribunals can over rule UK laws and UK judges, you can't really say the UK was a sovereign nation while in the EU.

Is ECHR part of the EU court system? Think carefully.













Its not.

[Tyrannical]

When EU courts and tribunals can over rule UK laws and UK judges, you can't really say the UK was a sovereign nation while in the EU.

Is ECHR part of the EU court system? Think carefully.













Its not.

A very tricky question.
Since the EU signed the treaty, the UK can't exit or renogotiate the treaty without exiting the EU.

[pErvinalia]

And again, because you dodged the question, where do the general public get the information on which to base their, by your lights, trustworthy opinions?

Sorry grandad, us yoofs have this thing called the Intertubes or something, whatevar. You know us non sheep people don't listen to the corrupt MSM. We can seek out the truth and disregard the agenda pushing MSM.

Indeed, and the yoofs voted overwhelmingly to Remain.

Dave's an old conservative trapped in a yoof's body. Young and conservative... What a fucking embarrassment!

Yeah I kind of miss those awesome lefty/liberal parties were you can't say this, can't do that, can't listen to this, can't watch that. It is fun, fun and fun when lefty/liberals are around. Christ you are godless puritans and no mistake. Work at a shitty job and want to let your hair down at the weekend well fuck you the lefty/liberal joymops are here spoil your fun. Lefty/liberals are weaponised misery and don't you dare have any fun when they are around.

It's clear from your inability to construct sentences and prosecute arguments, not to mention the above bollocks, that you've never been to university where the left dominate and where parties are far wilder than anything you and the Young Tories would even dream of partaking in.

[Tyrannical]

It's clear from your inability to construct sentences and prosecute arguments, not to mention the above bollocks, that you've never been to university where the left dominate and where parties are far wilder than anything you and the Young Tories would even dream of partaking in.

Ummm, and how much schooling did you get through again

[pErvinalia]

Unlike you two I only had to do year 3 once...

[Brian Peacock]

And again, because you dodged the question, where do the general public get the information on which to base their, by your lights, trustworthy opinions?

Sorry grandad, us yoofs have this thing called the Intertubes or something, whatevar. You know us non sheep people don't listen to the corrupt MSM. We can seek out the truth and disregard the agenda pushing MSM.

Indeed, and the yoofs voted overwhelmingly to Remain.

Lolwat, 35% of them only bothered to vote. Democracy is for the old as they are the ones who take it seriously. I was joking because only naive fools and the yoof take the mentally ill lefty/liberal position seriously.

And yet again, because you're working very hard to avoid supporting your own point while avoiding mine, where did the, by your lights, democratically virtuous oldies who voted Leave get there information about the EU from?

[Svartalf]

the Sun

[DaveDodo007]

Sorry grandad, us yoofs have this thing called the Intertubes or something, whatevar. You know us non sheep people don't listen to the corrupt MSM. We can seek out the truth and disregard the agenda pushing MSM.

Indeed, and the yoofs voted overwhelmingly to Remain.

Dave's an old conservative trapped in a yoof's body. Young and conservative... What a fucking embarrassment!

Yeah I kind of miss those awesome lefty/liberal parties were you can't say this, can't do that, can't listen to this, can't watch that. It is fun, fun and fun when lefty/liberals are around. Christ you are godless puritans and no mistake. Work at a shitty job and want to let your hair down at the weekend well fuck you the lefty/liberal joymops are here spoil your fun. Lefty/liberals are weaponised misery and don't you dare have any fun when they are around.

It's clear from your inability to construct sentences and prosecute arguments, not to mention the above bollocks, that you've never been to university where the left dominate and where parties are far wilder than anything you and the Young Tories would even dream of partaking in.

Blah, blah blah, perfect diction on a comment section of a light weight forum is reason to dismiss counter arguments (because I have nothing else going for me) blah, blah, blah. I was a lefty/liberal between 94-97 but I got better. One thing about a STEM degree is you value logic, reason and evidence, we never hear what degree you have. I can only assume it is a social science degree, what with your lack of rational thought process and critical thinking ability.

[Sean Hayden]

Oh my, are we whipping out degrees again?

[JimC]

BG

(Bachelor of Gin...)

[DaveDodo007]

And again, because you dodged the question, where do the general public get the information on which to base their, by your lights, trustworthy opinions?

Sorry grandad, us yoofs have this thing called the Intertubes or something, whatevar. You know us non sheep people don't listen to the corrupt MSM. We can seek out the truth and disregard the agenda pushing MSM.

Indeed, and the yoofs voted overwhelmingly to Remain.

Lolwat, 35% of them only bothered to vote. Democracy is for the old as they are the ones who take it seriously. I was joking because only naive fools and the yoof take the mentally ill lefty/liberal position seriously.

And yet again, because you're working very hard to avoid supporting your own point while avoiding mine, where did the, by your lights, democratically virtuous oldies who voted Leave get there information about the EU from?

I support working class people (of all ethnicities) who are being fucked over by elitists globalist twats. It is funny how all you pinko, commie socialist wankers support the one percent against the poor. Fuck them right even when they have to bare the blunt of mass immigration and social services and welfare state resources being stretched too the limit, whilst the rich live in gated communities, you are just 'useful idiots' for the elite. You socialist tosspots sold out the working class and wonder why they are rebelling against you. cough, identity politics, cough. It is not like the working class have a vote or anything, ho wait. You lefty/liberals are the metropolitan elite crushing the working class and insulting and shaming them for objecting to it. Us conservatives supporting hard working people since forever and fuck you 'give me money and free stuff' cunts.

[DaveDodo007]

BG

(Bachelor of Gin...)

Still more valuable than any social science (Mickey mouse, toilet paper) degree by a country mile.

[DaveDodo007]

Oh my, are we whipping out degrees again?

Yes, eRvin tends to do that a lot, it is like theologians whip out their phd when you question Jesus's existence.

[JimC]

BG

(Bachelor of Gin...)

Still more valuable than any social science (Mickey mouse, toilet paper) degree by a country mile.

(in reality, a Bachelor of Science (Honours) plus a Diploma of Education...)