Guns Used.....cont

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You can't see if you don't look. Good system for keeping the blinkers locked in place.

[Ian]

Why aren't you reporting the ones where the bad guys took the guns away and shot the shit out of the owner? You know, in the interest of fair and unbiased news.

Haven't seen one yet. Feel free to do the homework yourself if you like.

You're only looking at the news you want to see.

A gun in the house is 2200% more likely to be used in in a suicide, homicide (including against its owner) or accident than for home defense.

But as long as angry older white guys still have the right to buy assault rifles with high-capacity magazines anonymously at a gun show with no background check, America will remain a bastion of freedom.

[Seth]

You can't see if you don't look. Good system for keeping the blinkers locked in place.

This is the height of the pot calling the kettle black. It's a phrase that's best applied to hoplophobes like Blind Groper (and you) who willfully deny the millions of instances of armed self-defense in the US every year. You don't care to look for the evidence, despite having been cited to it many times, so I'm just making a few examples public to demonstrate your willful blindness.

There's plenty of hoplophobes out there who can dig up the requested information if they care to. I'm interested in fulfilling the purpose of the thread, which is to illuminate incidents of the lawful use of defensive firearms.

[Seth]

Why aren't you reporting the ones where the bad guys took the guns away and shot the shit out of the owner? You know, in the interest of fair and unbiased news.

Haven't seen one yet. Feel free to do the homework yourself if you like.

You're only looking at the news you want to see.

A gun in the house is 2200% more likely to be used in in a suicide, homicide (including against its owner) or accident than for home defense.

Lie.

[Seth]

Oh look! Happened again!

Crime
Armed 86-Year-Old Woman Takes a Stand Against Burglar: ‘If I Ever Catch ‘Em, I Mean to Kill ‘Em’
Feb. 6, 2013 4:50pm Jason Howerton

A burglar got more of a fight than she expected after a super tough 86-year-old would-be victim confronted her with a handgun. Though she was unable to hit the home intruder with the one shot she fired, the elderly woman engaged in a struggle with the burglar and refused to let go of her gun.

“I told different people, if I ever catch ‘em, I mean to kill ‘em,” Louise Howard told WCYB-TV. In other words, the burglar should be thankful she’s still alive.

The incident occurred on Friday afternoon and Howard was forced to defend her home and her life from a female burglar who broke the glass on her door with a wrench and forced her way into her Tennessee home.

“I was in shock. I didn’t know what she was going to do to me,” she said.

The elderly woman retrieved her gun but before she could get a clean shot off, the burglar approached her and the two started to wrestle down the hall.

“She moved her hands sort of released me a bit. I moved over like that, and I was going to shoot her in the stomach, but she took her knee and hit my elbow,” Howard recalled. The one shot she got off is still lodged inside her wall.
Armed 86 Year Old Woman Louise Howard Takes a Stand Against Burglar

(WCYB-TV)

Howard, a repeat crime victim, certainly defended her life and put up a good fight, however, the robber still made off with her purse, which contained two sets of keys, some rings, a bank card and a checkbook. Nothing else was taken.

Howard also told WYCB-TV she was more concerned for her cat than she was for herself, which is partly why she refused to back down.

“I guess I’d give my life that cat I love him so,” she said.

Hawkins County Sheriff Ronnie Lawson said the woman did the right thing defending herself with her firearm.

“All indications [were] the intruder, the female, had a wrench. It was what she used to break the window of the door so she could’ve defended herself,” he said.

[FBM]

Not sure how this guy's data-hunting is going to pan out under scrutiny, but I found it interesting:

[Clinton Huxley]

"millions of instances of armed self-defence in the US every year"? So, millions of attempted attacks, every year? Blimey. Dodgy place, the US.

[JimC]

"millions of instances of armed self-defence in the US every year"? So, millions of attempted attacks, every year? Blimey. Dodgy place, the US.

It does include people looking at you funny...

[Clinton Huxley]

"millions of instances of armed self-defence in the US every year"? So, millions of attempted attacks, every year? Blimey. Dodgy place, the US.

It does include people looking at you funny...

Did you spill my pint?

[tattuchu]

You guys just don't get it yet. We need our guns! We need guns to defend ourselves...against people who want to take our guns

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You guys just don't get it yet. We need our guns! We need guns to defend ourselves...against people who want to take our guns

Well, we know Sandi's planning an invasion of the USofA.

[Seth]

"millions of instances of armed self-defence in the US every year"? So, millions of attempted attacks, every year? Blimey. Dodgy place, the US.

As many as two million, as few as 800,000 (according the the Department of Justice)
And the US is not as dodgy as the UK when it comes to violent crime, not by half. The violent crime rate in the UK is twice what our violent crime rate is, and ours has been cut in half in the last 10 years.

[Seth]

You guys just don't get it yet. We need our guns! We need guns to defend ourselves...against people who want to take our guns

...among others.

[Clinton Huxley]

"millions of instances of armed self-defence in the US every year"? So, millions of attempted attacks, every year? Blimey. Dodgy place, the US.

As many as two million, as few as 800,000 (according the the Department of Justice)
And the US is not as dodgy as the UK when it comes to violent crime, not by half. The violent crime rate in the UK is twice what our violent crime rate is, and ours has been cut in half in the last 10 years.

Approx 600 murders a year in the UK, 12000 a year in the US. And what counts as a violent crime for the stats differs.

[MrJonno]

Considering I doubt if the number of use of 'defensive' firearms in the UK even reaches double figures and there are armed police and plenty of farmers with shotguns, I would say people thinking that there are 2 million in the US is a very good reason to ban them totally.

2 million 'defensive' uses is a very goood excuse to ban all guns, in fact its a very good justification to lock up anyone who uses the word 'defence' outside a football game or war