Ban Ronald McDonald?

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Should Ronald McDonald be banned?

Yes, ban him.
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No, don't ban him.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Tigger » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:54 pm

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Gallstones » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:12 pm

Burger King is good. I like Taco Bell too; green bean burrito with extra onions, and one of those slushy fruit drinks with the mango.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:26 pm

“McDonald’s marketing has the effect of conscripting America’s children into an unpaid drone army of word-of-mouth marketers, causing them to nag their parents to bring them to McDonald’s,” Stephen Gardner of the Center for Science in the Public Interest wrote to the heads of the chain in a letter announcing the lawsuit.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:05 pm

Dietary Guidelines for Americans, 2010
Studies examining the relationship between the food environment and BMI have found that communities with a larger number of fast food or quick-service restaurants tend to have higher BMIs. Since the 1970s, the number of fast food restaurants has more than doubled. Further, the proportion of daily calorie intake from foods eaten away from home has increased,
and evidence shows that children, adolescents, and adults who eat out, particularly at fast food restaurants, are at increased risk of weight gain, overweight, and obesity. The strongest association between fast food consumption and obesity is when one or more fast food meals are consumed per week. As a result of the changing food environment, individuals need to deliberately make food choices, both at home and away from home, that are nutrient dense, low in calories, and appropriate in portion size.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Warren Dew » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:51 pm

... from the same government that advocates the high carb diet that caused the obesity epidemic....

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:57 pm

Warren Dew wrote:... from the same government that advocates the high carb diet that caused the obesity epidemic....
Yes, that wasn't lost on me either Warren. :hehe:
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by laklak » Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:19 am

Or the parents could just grow a pair and tell their fat little piglets NO YOU'RE NOT GETTING A HAPPY MEAL AND IF YOU ASK ONE MORE TIME I'LL TAKE AWAY YOUR PLAYSTATION FOR A WEEK.

Oh, sorry, can't do that, it might damage their delicate little developing psyches.

They're kids, we're the adults. At least we used to be. Now we buy them iPhones when they're 10 and $150 tennis shoes and designer clothes so they won't feel left out at school. It's nonsense.

I remember a Roseanne episode when the oldest daughter wanted to do something or another and said "But Suzy's Mom is letting her go!" to which Roseanne replied "Suzy's mom is a drunken slut".
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:42 pm

McDonalds to hire 50,000 people.... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/McDonalds ... 3.html?x=0

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by egbert » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:34 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:McDonalds to hire 50,000 people.... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/McDonalds ... 3.html?x=0
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by sandinista » Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:54 pm

egbert wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:McDonalds to hire 50,000 people.... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/McDonalds ... 3.html?x=0
In China? :ddpan:
great news, more low paying non unionized shit work. Wonderful.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:13 pm

egbert wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:McDonalds to hire 50,000 people.... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/McDonalds ... 3.html?x=0
In China? :ddpan:
United States.

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:27 pm

sandinista wrote:
egbert wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:McDonalds to hire 50,000 people.... http://finance.yahoo.com/news/McDonalds ... 3.html?x=0
In China? :ddpan:
great news, more low paying non unionized shit work. Wonderful.
It's not shit work. It's honorable work. Being a cashier or a fry cook, etc., is not "shit work." Maybe for you folks up in Canada where the Canadians have the immigrants do this kind of work it is considered beneath you, or maybe it is beneath a spoiled brat who hasn't had to actually work in his or her life, but here in the U.S. being a cashier at McDonald's in high school or in college is quite often a good means of keeping money in one's pocket while one is getting his or her education.

A cashier starts about at about minimum wage to $8 or so an hour, roughly. But, they do receive good health benefits from the company: Medical, Vision supplement plan, Dental, Flexible spending accounts, Short and long term disability, Employee and dependent life insurance, Accidental death & dismemberment (AD&D), Travel and business travel accident insurance. They get bumped up to $9 to $11 for a shift supervisor (per hour), and then an assistant manager of the restaurant makes about $30,000/year.

Now, what "should" an assistant manager of a McDonalds (not the most demanding job ever) be paid? $100,000 a year? Considering lawyers, who go to school until they are 24 or 25 at a minimum, start out on average in the range of $50,000 or $60,000 - should a McDonalds assistant manager make more? If McDonald's raised their salary on assistant managers to $60,000 a year, do you think that the competition for those jobs might just increase, and do you think you might start getting advanced degreed folks coming in in this tough job market and taking those jobs because it's hard to find other jobs?

Also, there is no better way to become a franchisee or manager of a McDonalds - About half of its franchisees and more than 75 percent of its managers started as store workers. So, sorry, dude - but, yeah - sometimes when you're starting out you have to work some so-called "shit jobs" before you work your way up. In your book, of course, an 18 year old handing people bags of burgers out the drive-thru window ought to start out making $50,000, right?

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by sandinista » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:43 pm

coito...you are one funny kid. I take it you work for mcshit. :funny: It's no wonder no one takes you seriously.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Svartalf » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:44 pm

it's still shit work.
it's a mcjob, in the full meaning given the expression by Douglas Coupland, and for that matter, what I read from Sandinista's post, it's not that the work is demeaning, it's the wages that are shameful, and mcd's anti union tactics that prevent workers from defending themselves from the boss's slave driver attitude.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:17 pm

sandinista wrote:coito...you are one funny kid. I take it you work for mcshit. :funny: It's no wonder no one takes you seriously.
You're very predictable.

As per usual, you must make everything a personal battle, instead of just discussing the issue. Of course you won't discuss how much they should be paid, or what the job really entails. That would be more difficult than just slinging insults like "McShit" and attacking me.

No - I don't work for McDonalds, but I have worked worse jobs than McDonalds, and I have worked for minimum wage. When I worked for minimum wage I was in high school, and I used my first job to learn something and get a better one, and so on. If I wanted to stay as a cashier or a stockboy in a convenience store, then I wouldn't have expected to make much more money. Maybe you do, because you've found that that's all you're qualified for, or maybe because you've never worked a real hard day's work in your life and you think that you should just get whatever you want.

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