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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:00 pm

Dave has already addressed that. I believe he posted a meme. :coffee:
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Re: The Hillary-thread

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:11 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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mistermack wrote:There's going to be some sackings in the FBI when Hillary gets in.
So there should. This is no chance event.
It's a plot to steal the election.
Because the Obama Administration's Department of Justice is in Trump's pocket....
That says nothing about the legitimacy or appropriateness of Mr Comey’s action : http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 2#p1683532
Of course it doesn't. And, when Comey declined to prosecute, he was defending democracy and doing his job. Now, he's interfering with the election. All depends on whose ox is being gored.

The key is, is there evidence that Comey is conspiring against the Clinton campaign?
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:13 pm

One thing that hasn't been picked up by the media yet is that Mr Comey’s actions send a clear message to all political aspirants, including Trump, along with Congress and the Senate. That message is: it doesn't matter what guidance or regulations are in place or whether the operation of democracy is constitutionally non-partisan or not, just don't fuck with the FBI - and specifically, don't fuck with Mr Comey. This has all the hallmarks of a power play: Mr Comey is telling Clinton, Trump, and the world that he intends to remain in place until he's good and ready.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Tero » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:45 pm

You just can't trust Hillary! Any day now, a penis or vagina will show up in her email! Trump trust moves up 0.4%
The Real Clear Politics's average of national and state polls shows some incremental movement for Trump's. Clinton is 4.6 points ahead of Trump as of Saturday morning, down from her 5.2-point advantage Friday. Clinton's average support dropped from 47.3 percent of likely and registered voters to 47.1 percent, while Trump moved from 42.1 percent support to 42.5 percent.

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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:56 pm

You can't trust her, because she lies so much. While a person's pattern and practice of making stuff up may be a very weak way to judge their trustworthiness, it is one of the only things we have to go on....
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:58 pm

Trump lies essentially every time he comments on anything. If the electorate was worried about someone being a liar, they shouldn't be supporting Trump (or Clinton).
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:01 pm

pErvin wrote:Trump lies essentially every time he comments on anything. If the electorate was worried about someone being a liar, they shouldn't be supporting Trump (or Clinton).
Trump's "lies" are the typical political sales-puffery. He claims his policies will reduce the deficit, for example, when other people say that it's hogwash for him to say that.

Hillary lies flat out when she says that she had permission to use a server, did so only for convenience, that it was lawful to do it the whole time, that she ever sent or received classified documents, that she never sent or received documents marked classified, and that she turned over all work related emails to the FBI. Those are objective falsehoods, not exaggerations or puffery.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:03 pm

Turmp's lies are about EVERYTHING. The guy is a compulsive liar. It's farcical that someone concerned about trust could think Trump is trustworthy.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:13 pm

pErvin wrote:Turmp's lies are about EVERYTHING. The guy is a compulsive liar. It's farcical that someone concerned about trust could think Trump is trustworthy.
Specifics?

They all exaggerate their promises, and make promises of future performance which are not reliable in any way. Obama was a liar in that regard too. Bush was a liar in that regard too. Half the shit they promise they can't accomplish on their own, and some of it they should know damn well has little to no chance of ever passing the Congress, etc. But, that's all of them.

Hillary lied and was corrupt as part of her duties as Secretary of State, among other things.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Forty Two » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:15 pm

Hillary may be under investigation now, via her Clinton Global Initiative, for violation of the RICO Act, which would be non-pardonable. Stay tuned.

As Carl Bernstein, of Woodward and Bernstein Watergate fame, said -- Comey would not have done this announcement if there wasn't something significant in there.

We shall see.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:19 pm

Forty Two wrote:
pErvin wrote:Turmp's lies are about EVERYTHING. The guy is a compulsive liar. It's farcical that someone concerned about trust could think Trump is trustworthy.
Specifics?
There's literally too many of them to list. There's lists of them all over the internet. A number of them have been posted throughout the various threads here. I can't seriously believe you think Trump isn't a liar of spectacular proportions.
Hillary lied and was corrupt as part of her duties as Secretary of State, among other things.
Stop with the silly tu quoque stuff. Trump being a massive liar has nothing to do with Clinton. Again, you aren't obliged to vote for either of them. The way you keep answering charges against Trump by referring to Clinton says that you really don't seem to get this.
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by Scot Dutchy » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:20 pm

Anyway Trump will not be around in 2020 as he will be in prison for rape and molestation. :funny:
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:20 pm

Forty Two wrote:Hillary may be under investigation now, via her Clinton Global Initiative, for violation of the RICO Act, which would be non-pardonable. Stay tuned.

As Carl Bernstein, of Woodward and Bernstein Watergate fame, said -- Comey would not have done this announcement if there wasn't something significant in there.

We shall see.
Didn't he make his statement/letter before they had a warrant to look at them??
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Re: The Hillary-thread

Post by rainbow » Mon Oct 31, 2016 1:24 pm

Forty Two wrote:Hillary may be under investigation now, via her Clinton Global Initiative, for violation of the RICO Act, which would be non-pardonable. Stay tuned.

As Carl Bernstein, of Woodward and Bernstein Watergate fame, said -- Comey would not have done this announcement if there wasn't something significant in there.

We shall see.
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