Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:20 am

Cunt wrote:
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"When left-whingers complain about 'the 1%" they're not complaining about the top 1% of global earners, but the top percentile in their own society. Let's not shift the goal posts, eh? if you want to call lef-whingers hypocrites for drawing attention to income inequality because they own a pair of shoes and know where their next meal is coming from please be more straightforward.
When they complain about the 1%, they are complaining about the rich ruining the lives of the poor.

So, get yourself a smartphone, (nevermind where the materials are mined, or where it is built) and get online and complain about the rich!

Or, alternately, you could take your wealth, move to an impoverished area, and share it.

But complaining about the rich (but only the ones 'richer' than you yourself) sounds a bit too simple.
Thank you for being more straightforward. :tea:
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:22 am

Are you wilfully stupid or does it come naturally? For the nth + 1 time, it's about the tiny few overly influencing the political system of which they are part. There is no world wide political system. Please get this into your thick head.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:23 am

Yeah, but the objectors aren't hungry, so it doesn't count.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:25 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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Are you wilfully stupid or does it come naturally? For the nth + 1 time, it's about the tiny few overly influencing the political system of which they are part. There is no world wide political system. Please get this into your thick head.
I understand if you can't see how you influence, and are influenced by the world outside your nations borders.

I just don't agree that you live in a bubble, that's all.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:32 am

I never said I live in a bubble. I'm just trying to explain the concept to you. And even if we expand it out to a world scale, my purchasing options are controlled by the collective 1% in each of our western consumerist nations. They overly influence trade policy, economic liberalisation, and international labour relations.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:58 am

Of course! Why should YOU feel responsible for the resources taken from people outside your country? That isn't YOUR fault...its the 'other' rich folk.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 1:59 am

It demonstrably is (overly). What part of this are you struggling to understand?
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:06 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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It demonstrably is (overly). What part of this are you struggling to understand?
If you fracked for the oil at home, it would messy up your home. It's better to get it from countries far away, then absolve yourself of responsibility by blaming it on the politicians, then refusing to serve as a politician.

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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:08 am

More than 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:11 am

Over 90% of Americans own a cellphone, and some 70% of those are smartphones.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:12 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
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More than 70% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
Which are the best countries in the world to be poor?

It's tough to measure, when one country might have a higher incidence of death due to home invasion, and another a higher incidence due to obesity...

And I'm not being sarcastic.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:16 am

It's not that tough. The US is awesome, and I feel very privileged.

I'm just giving you some facts so that you don't continue going around saying things like Americans should share their wealth because they own cellphones.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:25 am

Interrupting the bloodfart show for a moment to post a piece on the incompetent, habitually dishonest, narcissist dumpster fire president:

'Trump Was Never a Great Dealmaker. The Shutdown Proves It'
President Trump’s supporters elected him, in part, because they saw him as a wily tycoon and deft dealmaker who could shake up Washington and bring decades of business know-how to the Oval Office.

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Trump, in reality, was never a peerless or even a particularly skillful dealmaker, and many of the most significant business transactions he engineered imploded. Instead, he made his way in the world as an indefatigable self-promoter, a marketing confection and a human billboard who frequently licensed his name to buildings and products paid for by others.

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Striking lasting deals requires intimacy with the finer points of what every party wants out of a negotiation, realistic goals, maturity, patience, flexibility — and enough leverage so the other side can’t simply stall or walk away from the table. Trump hasn’t met any of those prerequisites in his repeated efforts to fulfill his campaign promise to build a wall, a promise that played to the most xenophobic and bigoted portion of his base while not addressing any of the real shortcomings or necessary enhancements of federal immigration policy.

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Trump also missed chances last year, when Republicans still controlled the House, to seal deals that might have given him significantly more funding for a wall than the $5 billion he wants — and is unlikely to get — now. Early in the year, hampered by his inability to be flexible or understand the other side’s needs, Trump opposed a bipartisan Senate proposal that offered $25 billion for a wall as long as a path to citizenship was opened for 1.7 million young, undocumented immigrants living in the U.S.

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Left reeling and desperate, he said on Friday and again on Sunday that he may declare a national emergency on the southern border so he can simply appropriate the taxpayer funds he wants. Such a move may not even be legal, would prompt Democrats to file a lawsuit to stop him regardless, and is likely to further alienate some Republicans worn down by his antics.

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“We need a dealmaker in the White House, who knows how to think innovatively and make smart deals,” he tweeted back in 2011.

We still don’t have one.

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:28 am

Cunt wrote:
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It demonstrably is (overly). What part of this are you struggling to understand?
If you fracked for the oil at home, it would messy up your home. It's better to get it from countries far away, then absolve yourself of responsibility by blaming it on the politicians, then refusing to serve as a politician.

It's tidy.
That's a nonsensical reply even by your standards.

The 1% in our western liberal capitalist countries write the rules as to how we exploit the third world. There's very little a global 1-0.1 percenter can do about it. Other than getting together and wheeling out the guillotines again.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Hermit » Tue Jan 08, 2019 2:43 am

Cunt wrote:
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I know you want to apply the argument only to your small country, but the world is blurring borders, now more than ever.
For most of the inhabitants of any nation most of what goes on beyond their national boundaries is so blurred, they are hardly even aware of goes on elsewhere. How many Canadians ($48,141 GDP PPP per capita*), Australians (49,882), US (59,495) citizens, Great Britons (43,550 ) etc, do you estimate could even put a pin into an unmarked world map to indicate they know where Burkina Faso (1,884) is?

As it stands, the poverty in Canada, Australia, US, GB etc is not determined by Burkina Faso's government. It is determined by the government of each respective nation. Please stop waffling about global poverty. For all practical and psychological reasons it is irrelevant.


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