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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by JimC » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:39 am

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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by laklak » Wed Feb 20, 2019 3:21 am

Who the fuck wants to go to a Muslim area anyway? Women covered in bin bags, no bars, no bacon. Fuck that shit. I'm going to the Redneck Area. Girls in Daisy Dukes, all the beer you can drink and BBQ pork. Yassuh, that's what I'm talkin' 'bout.
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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by rainbow » Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:13 am

Cunt wrote:
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Yes, even in Australia.
:smug: You've just destroyed your own argument. :smug:
You can act smug, but as long as you don't make your jokes about the prophet of your overlords, you'll be ok.
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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Feb 20, 2019 8:25 am

Remember there is as much conflict between the different movements of islam as anywhere else.
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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

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For which Darwin be thanked... :tea:
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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:28 pm

JimC wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:38 am
pErvinalia wrote:
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I'm sure it's the same wherever fundie Jews congregate.
True, but Cunt sort of has a point - there are more muslims (even a higher %, I suspect) who would react angrily, if not violently, to even a mild criticism of their religion than fundamentalist Jews or christians. Their tolerance of other religions, on average, is much less.

Having said that, we are still talking about a minority of muslims, even though they have considerable power and influence in many parts of the world...
We are absolutely talking about a minority of Muslims. So what makes it ok for the police to enforce speech codes for Islam?

Why is it so weird to have satire? Are they too delicate?

For instance, would you write as carefully, if you were criticising the Westboro Baptist Church?
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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm

Cunt wrote:So what makes it ok for the police to enforce speech codes for Islam?
What speech codes do the police enforced for Islam, and where?
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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:49 pm

Amazing what the right wing think up.
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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

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Brian Peacock wrote:
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Cunt wrote:So what makes it ok for the police to enforce speech codes for Islam?
What speech codes do the police enforced for Islam, and where?
The police don’t like being called ‘pigs’. Perhaps that’s what he means. :smug:

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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:46 pm

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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by Cunt » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:49 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm
Cunt wrote:So what makes it ok for the police to enforce speech codes for Islam?
What speech codes do the police enforced for Islam, and where?
It's NOT the fault of the police, but if you remember, Tim Pool had a very moderate view of 'no-go zones' in the end. Did you know that earlier, he was escorted out?

Lauren Southern, a comic-journalist, was forbidden from entering the UK, based on her words, and the leaflet she was attempting to hand out.

By the way, the leaflets are progressive, and inclusive, and have a wholesome message that the HAD to forbid, or face civil unrest.

The police have to keep the peace, so removing agitators from muslim neighbourhoods is important. So is steering idiots away from harm.

Why do you suppose that ALL the media is so gentle about satire and Islam? So fearful of publishing cartoons about that ONE religion?

They aren't 'speech codes' per se. Well, Canada has some stuff on the books, about 'islamophobia' (to be defined later) but it's human rights stuff, and probably also doesn't amount to speech codes.
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Post by Rum » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:51 pm

So there aren't actually speech codes.

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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

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Rum wrote:
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So there aren't actually speech codes.
GOTCHA!, right? Ok, you got me.

Unless you count the bits of law which forbid certain speech. Or, law aside, why Lauren was steered away by that cop. Do you think that cop would have likewise turned away Westboro Baptist Church protesters? (I think so)

But really, why play around like this?

You know what she was exaggerating. There would be NO way for her to do the same thing in front of a Catholic church, so why keep hammering on the fact that I'm wrong about details, instead of jumping in about the point she made?

Would you carry her 'Allah is...' rainbow pamphlets, and hand them out to encourage inclusion?

I bet you wouldn't. The other thing that's funny about this, I bet you can't say why very clearly. I don't fault you for it, it is a big problem I even have trouble describing, despite the fact that I don't mind taking chances. Playing with ideas...it's an ugly, hard problem to be open about.
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Re: Australian 'no-go' zones

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:15 pm

Cunt wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote:
Wed Feb 20, 2019 2:41 pm
Cunt wrote:So what makes it ok for the police to enforce speech codes for Islam?
What speech codes do the police enforced for Islam, and where?
It's NOT the fault of the police, but if you remember, Tim Pool had a very moderate view of 'no-go zones' in the end. Did you know that earlier, he was escorted out?

Lauren Southern, a comic-journalist, was forbidden from entering the UK, based on her words, and the leaflet she was attempting to hand out.

By the way, the leaflets are progressive, and inclusive, and have a wholesome message that the HAD to forbid, or face civil unrest.

The police have to keep the peace, so removing agitators from muslim neighbourhoods is important. So is steering idiots away from harm.

Why do you suppose that ALL the media is so gentle about satire and Islam? So fearful of publishing cartoons about that ONE religion?

They aren't 'speech codes' per se. Well, Canada has some stuff on the books, about 'islamophobia' (to be defined later) but it's human rights stuff, and probably also doesn't amount to speech codes.
I'm not seeing an answer to the question here. Perhaps it rode off on your hobby horse when your back was turned. ;)
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