Those crazy Muslim bastards did it again

[Sean Hayden]

It's no wonder everyone has abandoned this small outpost of the internet. Saying all Muslims are responsible for any and everything any other Muslim does is reprehensible. It reminds me of when I was a child and I was in England and some wankers called me a 'Mick' and somehow tried to blame me for the IRA, even though I barely knew or understood who they were, other than they were a shower of bastards according to my parents.

Fucking disappointed.

Personally I hate it when everyone always says the right thing. It drives me nuts actually.

If it's any consolation, I don't think anything like that.

[cronus]

Was only indirectly involved in the troubles. Knew someone at school who had a relative in the IRA. Not right saying everything was B/W in the 70's. And the Muslim question should be seen the same way. The only difference is the IRA had a precise goal and their campaign was about achieving something real. And something geo-politically limited. The Muslim campaign is about world domination. That's a altogether other ball game. And the entire middle east were cheering, see it on the screen, when the towers came down so really there are no moderates in the 'world domination' arena. In that sort of campaign anywhere could be next. If you live in a middle to large size urban area, have that prepper bug out kit handy...

[Hermit]

84 Dead. Weapons and bombs were fake apparently. He drove for two kilometres into thousands of people. How in the hell did that truck get onto that road?

It drove around the concrete barriers.

France can't even erect effective anti-vehicle barriers? FFS!

I guess you missed WWII. Though the Germans cheated using paratroopers lol

WWII is a very good example of the French failure. The massive Maginot line of bunkers and other defensive devices ended near the southern corner of Belgium. So the German tank columns simply rolled in through the long gap between that corner and the North Sea.

[Hermit]

I will say that Islam as a religion needs to take some responsibility for the actions of those who use its religious texts as a reason for violence...

...the same way that Christianity as a religion needs to take some responsibility for the actions of those who use its religious texts as a reason for violence? KKK? Anti-abortionists assassinating doctors in the name of Christ? The people who used biblical texts to justify slavery? Professor Lane Craig who uses the Bible to justify genocide?

[cronus]

The reality is they are waging total war on our civilisation, and they are winning. Until we return the complement by waging total war on theirs nothing will change. Upto now the West has been stifled by a vocal PC segment, comprised of fifth columnists and assorted malcontents. When Trump is elected we should be able to ignore them and begin to deconstruct Islam. Eradicate all their holy sites in the middle east and they'll be lost. Seriously it would be far more effective than talking them out of their religion one at a time. What stopped Japan? It wasn't jaw-jaw.

[NineBerry]

Look up total war in the dictionary

[cronus]

Look up total war in the dictionary

That's a German for you. Everything by the book. In German I presume also?

[NineBerry]

[cronus]

You can be arrested in Germany for posting stuff like that I've read. Don't share it on Facebook. Thought police about, we're well out of Europe.

[NineBerry]

No, you can't

[Feck]

If you claimed Stalin, Hitler, Idi Amin or Pol Pot was the "Best of Men", the final prophet of god and teach your children that he is to be imitated in word deed and in fact gesture. I would question your sanity.
Worship a slave- trading paedophile who used mass- murder and torture , lived on the profits of banditry and intimidation and who laughed as his friends raped innocent captives I question your morality.
OBVIOUSLY Not all Muslims are terrorists, and not all Nazis gassed Jews ....

[Galaxian]

Two erroneous posts, Seth. First this one:

France can't even erect effective anti-vehicle barriers? FFS!

There were effective barriers, but the police moved one aside to allow the truck through to deliver ice cream to a restaurant.
Then this post, more serious, & as equally misconstrued as the title of the thread:

Don't care if ISIS ever claims responsibility, it's responsible, as is every other Muslim who isn't killing violent Muslim jihadis at this moment. No more sitting on the sidelines acting pious, either you go out and kill the people you yourself (referring to "moderate Muslims") call apostates or you are fifth-columnists and sympathizers who get cut no slack.

The guy committed suicide by cop. He was a fuckwit, disturbed individual who decided to go out with a bang. He may have been a Muslim or Tunisian, that had nothing to do with it. Bush & bLiar are Christians, so do we say that they are war criminals because they're Christians? No, they are psychopaths. If they ever go to trial, which they won't, the charge will not be "You invaded Afghanistan & Iraq as a religious Crusade." (Though Bush mentioned a Crusade once & was hushed up quickly).

So you 're wrong there. Think with your head, not with your balls. This madman had no track record of Islamic activism or jihadist training. He was an opportunist looking for a thrill, to make his mark in the history books, so as not to die a faceless non-entity.

Of course, apart from being insane, he was also shallow. Because most intellectuals know that no one is famous, no one has ever been famous, and no one will ever be famous. ALL people, from a still-born baby to Jesus Christ are faceless non-entities.

[Seth]

ISIS is no more representative of Islam as the KKK is of Christianity.

Which of course is utter crap, which you'd know if you'd ever even skimmed the Koran and it's explicit instructions to ALL Muslims with respect to killing and enslaving infidels.

The KKK was and is not a Christian organization and nowhere in the Christian bible (New Testament) are Christians commanded to kill or enslave anyone (and don't bother to try to trot out that old cherry-picking deliberate misinterpretation trope) or even engage in racial separatism.

That is NOT the case with Islam, which is an explicitly violent, vengeful, Muslim-supremecist social and political movement masquerading as a "religion" because that's what it claims gives it moral authority to kill and enslave every non-Muslim on earth.

The false equivalence you're trying to pander simply isn't true and it's mendaciously and recklessly wrong.

If "moderate" "peaceful" Muslims want to practice a religion in peace and not be linked to the Koran's intent and purpose of enslaving people and establishing a Caliphate over the entire planet with Muslims in charge, then they'd damned well better repudiate and/or edit the Koran and call their religious activities something other than "Islam," because Islam and Muslims have been fatally tainted by their own published ideology and I consider every Muslim who isn't out killing Muslim apostates, if jihadis are in fact the apostates "moderate" Muslims claim they are as a method of distancing themselves from responsibility for the actions of other Muslims, to be an enemy of the rest of the civilized world until proven otherwise by their actions in suppressing and rejecting Islamic violence and political supremacy agendas.

"Islam" is due no respect as a "religion" because like Nazism, it's only superficially "a religion" and fundamentally it's a sociopathic and utterly evil sociopolitical movement that is far more dangerous and insidious than Nazism ever was. At least the Nazis were open about their agenda and didn't try to dissemble or hide behind religion. They wanted to create a "Master Race," kill Jews and other undesirables, and rule the world for a thousand years.

Islam is absolutely no different in it's intentions and motivations, as the Koran and Muslim practice and propaganda worldwide proves, and the world owes Islam absolutely no greater deference or respect than it owed Hitler and the Nazis. And the world needs to do to Islam what it did to Nazis, for the sake of everyone on the planet.

If you weren't a Nazi you fought against Nazis. If you didn't fight against Nazis, you were a Nazi in every salient respect and you were treated like a Nazi. The same rule applies to Muslims.

So where is the Saudi Muslim Apostate Elimination Brigade marching into Syria and the West Bank? Where is the US Islamic Apostate Intellligence Agency and its millions of Muslim agents feeding information on any Muslim preaching sedition and treason against the United States? Where are the Muslim Neighborhood Protection Brigades of armed men and women patrolling their Muslim neighborhoods and arresting seditious traitors and ferreting out Imams who are advocating Sharia "law" and turning them in to the local police?

They don't fucking exist. Not one of them. Muslims are nothing if not cowardly fucks who won't clean their own house in order to expunge the stain of radical Islam on "moderate" "peaceful" Muslims. What they are, until they demonstrate the resolve to expunge Islamic violence and pretensions to world domination, is silent conspirators in every attack and every wrongdoing by Muslims anywhere on earth who are simply waiting patiently for the great victory and their opportunity to shove Islam down everyone else's throats, and if you believe otherwise you're psychotic.

To defend Islam and Muslims as "not representative" of Islam is fucking delusional lunacy.

[Seth]

Two erroneous posts, Seth. First this one:

France can't even erect effective anti-vehicle barriers? FFS!

There were effective barriers, but the police moved one aside to allow the truck through to deliver ice cream to a restaurant.

Well, the facts show that there were not effective barriers because he got through and killed 80 people. That's simply indisputable. And what brain-dead cop manning a barrier allows a giant truck through it to "deliver" anything to anyone during a massive pedestrian celebration without opening the fucking truck and checking it for bombs and guns and thoroughly checking out the driver's story and identity by confirming the delivery with the restaurant?

That is a monumental security fuckup for which those involved need to be cashiered and held criminally responsible.

Then this post, more serious, & as equally misconstrued as the title of the thread:

Don't care if ISIS ever claims responsibility, it's responsible, as is every other Muslim who isn't killing violent Muslim jihadis at this moment. No more sitting on the sidelines acting pious, either you go out and kill the people you yourself (referring to "moderate Muslims") call apostates or you are fifth-columnists and sympathizers who get cut no slack.

The guy committed suicide by cop.

Bullshit. People who want to commit suicide by cop don't kill 90 people to do so. They pull a gun on a cop and then the cop shoots them. This was a terrorist attack plain and simple.

He was a fuckwit, disturbed individual who decided to go out with a bang.

Of course he was, but he was also a Muslim terrorist.

He may have been a Muslim or Tunisian, that had nothing to do with it.

It has everything to do with it. Why he wanted to die is utterly irrelevant. How he chose to die is all that's relevant. He's a Muslim terrorist plain and simple.

Bush & bLiar are Christians, so do we say that they are war criminals because they're Christians?

They aren't "war criminals."

No, they are psychopaths.

What's your medical license number?

If they ever go to trial, which they won't, the charge will not be "You invaded Afghanistan & Iraq as a religious Crusade." (Though Bush mentioned a Crusade once & was hushed up quickly).

Well, that's because it wasn't a religious crusade. But Islam isn't a religious crusade either, it's a sociopolitical movement identical in plan and process to Nazism to subjugate and enslave all non-Muslims to the worldwide Caliphate and kill all undesirables and uncooperative slaves because that's what the Koran (and their Imams) explicitly commands Muslims to do.

So you 're wrong there. Think with your head, not with your balls. This madman had no track record of Islamic activism or jihadist training. He was an opportunist looking for a thrill, to make his mark in the history books, so as not to die a faceless non-entity.

That's the point of Islamic fifth-columnist lone-wolf sleeper agents. They are radicalized by the Koran from the moment they are old enough to understand the preaching at the mosque and they stew in that climate of hatred, racism and Muslim supremacy until they decide to go out in a blaze of glory and get their 72 virgins. That's precisely what makes ALL Muslims so very, very dangerous to everyone else.

Of course, apart from being insane, he was also shallow. Because most intellectuals know that no one is famous, no one has ever been famous, and no one will ever be famous. ALL people, from a still-born baby to Jesus Christ are faceless non-entities.

You don't have to be a deep-thinking person to be a fucking suicidal Islamic jihadi. The deep-thinkers of Islam are the Saudi royal family, the Imams preaching sedition, terrorism and Muslim supremacy, and the leaders of the jihad who are too fucking cowardly to strap on their own suicide vests and go blow themselves to kingdom come. They recruit shallow thinkers to do the scut-work of dying for the cause for them, or had that obvious fact eluded you?

[Seth]

Don't care if ISIS ever claims responsibility, it's responsible, as is every other Muslim who isn't killing violent Muslim jihadis at this moment. No more sitting on the sidelines acting pious, either you go out and kill the people you yourself (referring to "moderate Muslims") call apostates or you are fifth-columnists and sympathizers who get cut no slack.

ISIS is no more representative of Islam as the KKK is of Christianity.

I'll slightly disagree here. It is not the sole, or main representative of Islam, but is one of the representatives of Islam, and to a degree, the terrorist actions of ISIS, or other jihadists, or lone wolf terrorists shouting Islamic phrases are a blight and a shadow over the whole of Islam.

Having said that, I do not buy into Seth's contention that moderate muslims are dissembling, and are actually secret supporters of the jihadists. That is a dangerous nonsense; it fosters a mentality that there should be general reprisals against the muslim community in the west, which is not only unjust, but highly likely to cause further cycles of radicalisation, terrorist attacks and further reprisals. This, of course, is what the fundamentalist terrorists wish to achieve...

Muslims can't be any more "radicalized" than they already are. If they haven't yet committed a terroristic act against non-Muslims it's because, as the Koran commands, they are awaiting the right moment to rise up and kill the infidels and bring the World Caliphate to fruition. If that's not what they intend, then they would be out there turning in Imams preaching treason and sedition and arresting and turning in "radicals" who are apostates to "true Islam"...the "peaceful" version...which doesn't fucking exist and is a giant propagandistic lie meant to garner sympathy from the weak minded so as to gull them into insensibility and inaction until it's too late.