Theresa WILL

[Sælir]

Theresa is trolling I think. She just appointed Boris as Foreign Secretary.

BoJo for FoSec?

[Brian Peacock]

Theresa is trolling I think. She just appointed Boris as Foreign Secretary.

BoJo for FoSec?

BoJo? is that a thing now?

[cronus]

Was a Christian myself for a few years(a story there). You can see what she wants if you've studied scripture. Boris = End of Days. In a way she's my sort of PM.

[Brian Peacock]

Yeah, you wish.

[JimC]

PMT?

[pErvinalia]

Theresa is trolling I think. She just appointed Boris as Foreign Secretary.

BoJo for FoSec?

Fo shizzle!

[Svartalf]

It would be a brave and reckless srupid m PM who would not accept the referendum vote.
Brexit is a reality.

Actually, I expect May to do what was voted, but if she goes through parliaments, it will be reckless stupid MPs who'll try to block the process

[Scot Dutchy]

It would be a brave and reckless srupid m PM who would not accept the referendum vote.
Brexit is a reality.

Actually, I expect May to do what was voted, but if she goes through parliaments, it will be reckless stupid MPs who'll try to block the process

Brexit is on the back burner for a while. When it will be brought forward again no one can say.

[mistermack]

Brexit is on the back burner for a while. When it will be brought forward again no one can say.

If it was just Theresa May, that might be possible.

But she has appointed David Davis as minister for Brexit, and Boris as Foreign Secretary.

Who is going to allow themselves to be minister for Brexit, and not actually do it?
Certainly not David Davis, who campaigned in favour of Brexit.

And could she afford to have her minister for Brexit resign, because she had no intention of carrying it through?
No way.

So the fact that she appointed him means that she does intend to put it through.

That's what logic is telling me.
Instinct is saying something else.

But, in that case, she would hardly set up a ministry for brexit, and appoint David Davis to run it.
He did once stand for the leadership himself, against Cameron, so she can hardly take him lightly.

[Scot Dutchy]

She has to go through the motions surely.

Remember Scotland? That is still up her sleeve.

[mistermack]

She has to go through the motions surely.

Remember Scotland? That is still up her sleeve.

Scotland is more on her back, than up her sleeve.

I do think, on balance, that she's decided that not doing brexit is a non-starter, unless something dramatic happens. So she's going through the motions, as you say, but she's resigned to having no choice but to brexit, unless something totally unforseen, and huge, gives her the excuse not to. But I don't think she's holding out much hope of that.

In any case, she's a Tory. The idea of Brexit isn't so awful to her, even if, on balance, she wasn't in favour.
I'll bet that she was pretty close to fifty-fifty on whether to support it or not.
It might have been that she thought that remain would be the winning side, and didn't want to alienate Cameron or Osborne. Who know's what she really thought?

[Scot Dutchy]

I sense she has a bit more savvy than many in her party. She could be engineering it for something drastic to happen. With BOJO and Davis you never know.

[mistermack]

I sense she has a bit more savvy than many in her party. She could be engineering it for something drastic to happen. With BOJO and Davis you never know.

I wouldn't put it past her. But I can't imagine how she could possibly pull it off.
It would be a huge personal risk, which she doesn't need to take.

And it would have to be something genuine. You know how these things get dissected to the nth degree.
There would be no chance of just pulling a stroke.

I'm pretty sure that she's decided, "we'll do it, but drag our feet, and see if anything comes up".

[Scot Dutchy]

I sense she has a bit more savvy than many in her party. She could be engineering it for something drastic to happen. With BOJO and Davis you never know.

I wouldn't put it past her. But I can't imagine how she could possibly pull it off.
It would be a huge personal risk, which she doesn't need to take.

And it would have to be something genuine. You know how these things get dissected to the nth degree.
There would be no chance of just pulling a stroke.

I'm pretty sure that she's decided, "we'll do it, but drag our feet, and see if anything comes up".

Exactly my thoughts. As I said with BoJo and co anything is possible which I think was the purpose in the first place.

[Brian Peacock]

She has to go through the motions surely.

Remember Scotland? That is still up her sleeve.

Scotland is more on her back, than up her sleeve.

I do think, on balance, that she's decided that not doing brexit is a non-starter, unless something dramatic happens. So she's going through the motions, as you say, but she's resigned to having no choice but to brexit, unless something totally unforseen, and huge, gives her the excuse not to. But I don't think she's holding out much hope of that.

In any case, she's a Tory. The idea of Brexit isn't so awful to her, even if, on balance, she wasn't in favour.
I'll bet that she was pretty close to fifty-fifty on whether to support it or not.
It might have been that she thought that remain would be the winning side, and didn't want to alienate Cameron or Osborne. Who know's what she really thought?

I concur. May has put off a decision on triggering A50 until after Christmas. Triggering A50 is the start of a 2 year disentanglement process - and it may take longer - which brings us up to the next general election. In the meantime the economic repercussions will become clearer as time goes on. This may lead to a change in public opinion, but May still has to press on with Brexitisation until or unless it becomes clear to most that's it's a non-starter. The next general election may well be fought on a Remain vs Leave footing depending on how things play out.

As for our Caledonian cousins, the Scottish parliament may assert it's desire for independence but any Scoxit extraction from the British Union will have to be negotiated in a similar fashion the UK would be attempting to negotiate its own extraction from the European Union. Scotland is a massively complicating factor, but I don't think Westminster has the brains, skills, or manpower to negotiate those kind of things on two fronts simultaneously - and probably doesn't have the resources at the moment to even begin EU negotiations (which is another possible reason for putting off the A50 trigger).

The whole thing is a godawful mess. I wonder if Cameron is sleeping well these days?