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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:49 pm

^ exactly the same as what exi did. So you have set up a terrible precedent.
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:49 pm

Meanwhile the Guardian reported in November that Chinese hospitals are still prescribing drugs and electric shocks to gay men and lesbians:-

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/o ... ry-reveals

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Re: China bans depictions of gay people on television

Post by JimC » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:56 pm

I will take the exclamation marks to mean "example"

OK, let's look at the post which has been getting you agitated:
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rEvolutionist wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:I can't think of anything more loud and screeching than deliberately keeping gay people off the media.
That makes absolutely no sense.
It wouldn't to anyone with an IQ less than 6
It could be construed as a simple albeit obvious statement of fact; someone with such a low IQ wouldn't understand any statement whatsoever...

The indirect part comes because there is no clear, direct implication that Exi stated that you specifically have an IQ less than 6. Your example, however, is clear and unequivocal that the post above has been made by a dickhead. Done in the normal course of a thread rather than an example, it would warrant a reminder/warning.

But again, you have missed the point - this isn't a democracy, or a debating house. Moderators are here to make decisions about issues such as this. A decision has been made. Move on, as I have said to Seth and others...
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Mar 05, 2016 11:59 pm

"This makes absolutely no sense to me" (the exact meaning of my post)

"It wouldn't make sense to someone with an IQ less than 6"

There is no logic in the world that you could employ to refute that the conclusion from those two premises is that I have an IQ less than 6. It's the EXACT same principle in the example I used against you.
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:00 am

Can you bear this kind of pain? How long can you bear it? If you can really bear with it then you can change,” one doctor told an undercover gay activist who filmed his consultation at a hospital in the port city of Tianjin.

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Exi5tentialist wrote:Meanwhile the Guardian reported in November that Chinese hospitals are still prescribing drugs and electric shocks to gay men and lesbians:-

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/o ... ry-reveals
Well, to make a serious reply, of course this is terrible. Mind you, it is not that they are a generally tolerant society with a specifically and unique viciousness towards gays. They treat dissidents to their regime just as harshly. It is simply another manifestation of their authoritarian society...
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Re: China bans depictions of gay people on television

Post by JimC » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:01 am

rEvolutionist wrote:"This makes absolutely no sense to me" (the exact meaning of my post)

"It wouldn't make sense to someone with an IQ less than 6"

There is no logic in the world that you could employ to refute that the conclusion from those two premises is that I have an IQ less than 6. It's the EXACT same principle in the example I used against you.
Then we will have to agree to disagree.
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:05 am

JimC wrote:Well, to make a serious reply, of course this is terrible. Mind you, it is not that they are a generally tolerant society with a specifically and unique viciousness towards gays. They treat dissidents to their regime just as harshly. It is simply another manifestation of their authoritarian society...
How reassuring.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Mar 06, 2016 12:08 am

JimC wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:"This makes absolutely no sense to me" (the exact meaning of my post)

"It wouldn't make sense to someone with an IQ less than 6"

There is no logic in the world that you could employ to refute that the conclusion from those two premises is that I have an IQ less than 6. It's the EXACT same principle in the example I used against you.
Then we will have to agree to disagree.
You don't feel any compulsion to explain the logical inconsistency? Anyway, I've started a serious thread in the forum discussion section.
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:02 am

"When these urges arise, you can take a cold shower or go jogging to release the excess hormones,” a psychiatrist suggested to him before offering the electric shock treatment.

He is told it costs $800 each time and that several appointments will be required for him to be 'cured'..

Electrodes are attached to the man's head, which goes numb as the voltage is turned up.

'He’s told it will rebalance his nervous system.'

Despite the law change, police closely monitor any public dissent and reporter Shaunagh Connaire is told opponents are threatened with jail.

'I think aversion therapy can hurt anyone, especially gay people,” psychotherapist Johnny Li said.

'Aversion therapy reinforces their lack of self-identity and their feelings of rejection, the damage can be long-term or even last a lifetime.'

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:04 am

:funny: You got mixed up with your own parody thread. :lol:
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rEvolutionist wrote:You got mixed up with your own parody thread.
Did I? Oh.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Mar 06, 2016 1:16 am

This is a gay thread. :lozzer:
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Re: China bans depictions of gay people on television

Post by mistermack » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:27 am

Exi5tentialist wrote:Meanwhile the Guardian reported in November that Chinese hospitals are still prescribing drugs and electric shocks to gay men and lesbians:-

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/o ... ry-reveals
Reading that Guardian report, it comes across that the Chinese government is well ahead of the general population, in attitudes to homosexuality.
Channel 4’s Unreported World finds doctors prescribing drugs and electric shocks to gay men and lesbians despite Beijing legalising homosexuality in 1997
Chinese doctors are offering painful electroshock therapy and drug prescriptions they claim will “cure” homosexuality, an undercover documentary team has discovered, even though the treatments have no scientific basis and a Beijing court recently ruled against the practice.
Last year a court in Beijing made a landmark ruling against a clinic in south China that administered electroshock and hypnosis “conversion” treatments.
The Chinese health industry is notorious for offering bogus treatements.
The fact that people put themselves through it reflects the attitudes of the nation in general.
Gay people in Britain used to put themselves through similar ordeals a few years ago.
Many gay people relate stories of self-loathing, when they realised that they were gay, back in those days. It's down to the attitudes that they grew up with.

The biggest factor in "normalising" gayness in the public mind, is public figures, who most people like and admire, being open about being gay.
For some people it's sports people. For me, it's comedians like Steven Fry, and Kenny Everett.
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Re: China bans depictions of gay people on television

Post by laklak » Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:45 am

What's the difference between a faggot and a refrigerator?

Refrigerators don't fart when you pull the meat out.






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