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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by tattuchu » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:07 pm

I'm pretty sure we've already been through this before here :think: :dunno:
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by PsychoSerenity » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:23 pm

tattuchu wrote:I'm pretty sure we've already been through this before here :think: :dunno:
Yeah, a quick search turns up this very similar thread from Seth from just six month ago. But if you repeat nonsense often enough...
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by piscator » Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:27 pm

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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by Seth » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:40 pm

PsychoSerenity wrote:
tattuchu wrote:I'm pretty sure we've already been through this before here :think: :dunno:
Yeah, a quick search turns up this very similar thread from Seth from just six month ago. But if you repeat nonsense often enough...
The truth remains the truth, even 25 years later. That you keep denying the truth is the actual problem.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by Seth » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:41 pm

rEvolutionist wrote: So, when will you be calling for the invasion of Israel? :coffee:
When Israel attempts to take over the world for Judaism and/or it dispenses WMDs to kill it's own people.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by Seth » Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:43 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Interesting theory there...
Not a theory, it's a fact.
So how come the actual weapons inspectors didn't believe he had WMD's? Marxists, I suppose. :roll:
No, politics. They were UN inspectors after all.
And why did the US have to lie and make up evidence for the invasion? Prolly the Marxists again? :hehe:
That the US and the rest of the Coalition didn't tell YOU everything just as you'd like them to doesn't mean they didn't have actionable intelligence upon which to base their decisions.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:23 pm

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So, when will you be calling for the invasion of Israel? :coffee:
When Israel attempts to take over the world for Judaism and/or it dispenses WMDs to kill it's own people.
So you don't actually care about UN resolutions, despite professing to care earlier. This is just yet another case of Seth using a principle to attempt to provide justification for his own personal hates/wants.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by pErvinalia » Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:25 pm

And why did the US have to lie and make up evidence for the invasion? Prolly the Marxists again? :hehe:
That the US and the rest of the Coalition didn't tell YOU everything just as you'd like them to doesn't mean they didn't have actionable intelligence upon which to base their decisions.
Once again, why did they have to make up shit and lie?
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by Seth » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:28 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So, when will you be calling for the invasion of Israel? :coffee:
When Israel attempts to take over the world for Judaism and/or it dispenses WMDs to kill it's own people.
So you don't actually care about UN resolutions, despite professing to care earlier.
Israel =/= Iraq.

Therefore, false dilemma fallacy.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by Seth » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:31 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
And why did the US have to lie and make up evidence for the invasion? Prolly the Marxists again? :hehe:
That the US and the rest of the Coalition didn't tell YOU everything just as you'd like them to doesn't mean they didn't have actionable intelligence upon which to base their decisions.
Once again, why did they have to make up shit and lie?
Not that anybody made anything up or lied about anything, but if they did, it's called "war." During "war" you are not entitled to the whole truth and nothing but the truth, because that aids the enemy. "They" "lied" about the Manhattan Project, Los Alamos and Trinity. So what? The japs, like Saddam, got was coming to them.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:55 am

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So, when will you be calling for the invasion of Israel? :coffee:
When Israel attempts to take over the world for Judaism and/or it dispenses WMDs to kill it's own people.
So you don't actually care about UN resolutions, despite professing to care earlier.
Israel =/= Iraq.

Therefore, false dilemma fallacy.
No it's not. You stated as part of the reason necessary for invasion was a host of UN resolution violations. Israel likewise has illegal WMD and has violated far more UN resolutions than Iraq.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:56 am

Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
And why did the US have to lie and make up evidence for the invasion? Prolly the Marxists again? :hehe:
That the US and the rest of the Coalition didn't tell YOU everything just as you'd like them to doesn't mean they didn't have actionable intelligence upon which to base their decisions.
Once again, why did they have to make up shit and lie?
Not that anybody made anything up or lied about anything, but if they did, it's called "war." During "war" you are not entitled to the whole truth and nothing but the truth, because that aids the enemy. "They" "lied" about the Manhattan Project, Los Alamos and Trinity. So what? The japs, like Saddam, got was coming to them.
Since you won't answer the question, I'll answer it for you. They lied because there was absolutely no justification for the invasion without the lie.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by Seth » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:21 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote: So, when will you be calling for the invasion of Israel? :coffee:
When Israel attempts to take over the world for Judaism and/or it dispenses WMDs to kill it's own people.
So you don't actually care about UN resolutions, despite professing to care earlier.
Israel =/= Iraq.

Therefore, false dilemma fallacy.
No it's not. You stated as part of the reason necessary for invasion was a host of UN resolution violations. Israel likewise has illegal WMD and has violated far more UN resolutions than Iraq.
Israel didn't invade a neighbor, get defeated by that neighbor and its allies and agree, as part of the cease-fire agreement, to cooperate with UN weapons inspections and divest all WMDs.

Had Israel made such an agreement, then I'd be saying the same thing about it.

Israel =/= Iraq.

Therefore, false dilemma fallacy on your part, again.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by Seth » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:22 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
Seth wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
And why did the US have to lie and make up evidence for the invasion? Prolly the Marxists again? :hehe:
That the US and the rest of the Coalition didn't tell YOU everything just as you'd like them to doesn't mean they didn't have actionable intelligence upon which to base their decisions.
Once again, why did they have to make up shit and lie?
Not that anybody made anything up or lied about anything, but if they did, it's called "war." During "war" you are not entitled to the whole truth and nothing but the truth, because that aids the enemy. "They" "lied" about the Manhattan Project, Los Alamos and Trinity. So what? The japs, like Saddam, got was coming to them.
Since you won't answer the question, I'll answer it for you. They lied because there was absolutely no justification for the invasion without the lie.
Your (fallacious and ignorant) opinion is noted.

The sole fact that Saddam violated the terms of the cease-fire agreement alone was entirely sufficient justification to reengage with him.
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Re: Still think there were no WMDs in Iraq?

Post by piscator » Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:42 pm

But it was damn sure a pisspoor reason to spend $5Trillion of my tax dollars doing it.

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