Redneck shoots up Pensacola with AK-47

[Robert_S]

but copper is too light and steel bit too deadly and doesn't heft as nicely.

Baseball bats!

[Seth]

nobody has ever been able to prove a causative link between legal firearms ownership and violent crime.

A few months ago I would have disagreed with you. I have done more reading since then.

Results in Australia are mixed.

• Since gun control laws were tightened considerably in 1996, suicide by firearms dropped from 22% to 7%, but suicide by other means increased to the extent that the overall rate actually increased slightly for a while.
• Homicide rates are currently at 1.2 per 100,000. When the gun-controls were tightened they stood at 1.6. Looks good, but in the five years leading up to the legislative changes the rates dropped steadily from 1.9 to 1.6 and in the following five years they plateaued there. Those figures are not useful to supporters of gun control.
• There were 13 massacres in the 18 years prior to the law changes and none in the 14 years since. I think those figures do support gun control, at least in so far as private ownership of automatic and semi automatic weapons has been all but abolished.

Now give us the overall violent crime rate stats before and after, particularly using other weapons, like knives and cricket bats.

You do realize that you can kill someone, or grievously injure them with weapons other than firearms, right?

[Seth]

It would take a lot more nerve.
Any sad wanker can get drunk and pull a trigger. You can do it at a distance, at high speed, as this hero did.
If you try to do the same with a gasoline can, you might end up on fire yourself, or getting the shit beaten out of you.
Lots of people turn into heroes, when they have a machine gun, and the other people have nothing.

I agree completely. We should ban all guns, so that way nobody will be able to get a gun ever. And, if nobody ever has a gun, then bad things will stop happening.

I really want to stab you before bashing you head in with a lead pipe.

If it looks like you'll survive, I'll make sure you get a full body massage with poison ivy before you get to the doctor.

We no longer use lead pipes.

That's because the safety nannies banned lead in pipes. Something to do with the fall of the Roman Empire I believe.

[laklak]

The only lead I'll use is what's spewing from the muzzle of my deadly black scary looking assault rifle! BANG BANG BANG BANG. That that, you fuckers! Get in between ME and my mudbugs, will ya! Cocksuckers! BANG BANG BANG BANG. That'll larn em.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for banning guns except for the ones me and my posse have. Then it's knives, spears, swords, baseball bats, bows, catapults, daggers, epees, all other melee weapons, trebuchets, all pipes except PVC, all concrete pre-mix (you could fill a PVC pipe with it), scissors, hair and nail clippers, rope and leather (you could make a sling) lumber (you could build a trebuchet), frisbees (you could melt razor blades into the edges), Oh fuck it - razor blades too, and nail guns, box cutters, pliers, hacksaws, electric everything, and cars.

Once the world is disarmed,we'll set outselves up as absolute rulers, take all the money, crawdads and women and force the rest of you to build pyramids all day. Bwaaaahahahahaha.

EDIT - y'all are pretty smart, well, some of you at least, so let me know what else you might try to use as a weapon. Just for discussion, mind you, I promise we won't ban them. Honest.

EDIT TWO: Damn, forgot some things. Horses - you can twist their tail hair into rope to use on a ballista. Oh - ballistas. Can't have them. Claymores, both the melee weapon and anti-personnel mine. Tanks, Sopwith Camels, potato guns, potato peelers, potato mashers (the Wehrmacht kind), guitars (they don't call them an "axe" for nothing), pianos (strings = garrotes), chili peppers, petrol, diesel fuel, fertilizer. Be back later with an updated list.

[FBM]

EDIT - y'all are pretty smart, well, some of you at least, so let me know what else you might try to use as a weapon. Just for discussion, mind you, I promise we won't ban them. Honest.

Rocks. Tree limbs. To be safe, best ban wood in general. Animal bones and teeth...

And anything else that can be shaped and molded somehow.

Water and air have got to go, obviously. You can compress that shit and use it as a weapon.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I can kill you with tea.

[laklak]

Iced or hot?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Iced or hot?

50-50. I usually put the hot on the left, your right if you're reaching for it, so watch that.

[Hermit]

nobody has ever been able to prove a causative link between legal firearms ownership and violent crime.

A few months ago I would have disagreed with you. I have done more reading since then.

Results in Australia are mixed.

• Since gun control laws were tightened considerably in 1996, suicide by firearms dropped from 22% to 7%, but suicide by other means increased to the extent that the overall rate actually increased slightly for a while.
• Homicide rates are currently at 1.2 per 100,000. When the gun-controls were tightened they stood at 1.6. Looks good, but in the five years leading up to the legislative changes the rates dropped steadily from 1.9 to 1.6 and in the following five years they plateaued there. Those figures are not useful to supporters of gun control.
• There were 13 massacres in the 18 years prior to the law changes and none in the 14 years since. I think those figures do support gun control, at least in so far as private ownership of automatic and semi automatic weapons has been all but abolished.

Now give us the overall violent crime rate stats before and after, particularly using other weapons, like knives and cricket bats

The homicide data include knives and cricket bats. Sexual assaults have risen steadily since gun controls were tightened, but the rate of increase is no greater than the rate of increase in the years leading up to that legislative change. Also, the use of any weapons has never gone outside the 1.3 to 2.1% range there. Robberies, armed as well as unarmed, were no higher in 2006 than in 1996 on a per capita basis. The avalanche of violent crime you probably expected to occur after the passing of the 1996 gun control laws and subsequent compulsory gun buyback scheme did not eventuate.

[pErvinalia]

Or the goat. And don't trust a thing the sheep say, they're a pack of liars.

Reported for ad-hom on goats and sheep.

[Gallstones]

Ice picks, shoe laces, hot dogs, framing squares, pillows,........peanuts




Hearts attack and kill. We must abolish hearts.

[pErvinalia]

We should abolish everything but single celled amoeba.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

We should abolish everything but single celled amoeba.

Amoebic dysentery.

[Feck]

We should abolish everything but single celled amoeba.

Amoebic dysentery.

Prions FTW

[Gawdzilla Sama]

We should abolish everything but single celled amoeba.

Amoebic dysentery.

Prions FTW

Hey! I never got a single.