BREXIT! BREXIT! BREXIT!

[Scot Dutchy]

Well he fucked May well and proper.

[Alan B]

I think Bercow was right in his decision. Unfortunately, the media Right-Wing are a bunch of cunts.
What May was trying to do was present the same pack of cards each time with the pack re-shuffled each time... Does she really think Parliament is that stupid? They figured this out 415 years ago.

[Scot Dutchy]

Well the poor wee thing is suffering all the way back to her hubby's tax haven.

[rainbow]

there are some that aren't? you sure?

...not sure I can think of any off hand.
The Speaker in Commons is a twat, but reasonably funny.

Theresa May looked set to seek a long extension to the U.K.’s European Union membership after the House of Commons speaker torpedoed her plan to win Parliamentary approval for her deal to leave the bloc.

Bercow, the Speaker (more or less the chair when Parliament meets) cited a 400 year old ruling with which he refused May permission to bring the same legislation forward for a third time for a vote. It is the best chance yet of getting her deal through it is (was) thought.

To say he is being treated like the devil’s spawn in the media here is underplaying it.

I find it slightly bizarre, that in one vote (the referendum) a vote goes a certain way by a slim margin and the slogan is:
"Leave means leave!"

Yet May has asked the same question twice about her deal and doesn't get that:
"No means no!"

Apparently she thought that MPs might change their minds.

...something of which, she doesn't believe the British public have the right.

[Brian Peacock]

Indeed. We also voted to "Take Back Control" and yet May has managed to cede control to the EU council of ministers who are now entirely responsible for what happens on March 29.

[Brian Peacock]

Thinking about it though, Mrs May is not entirely to blame. As I've mentioned before, it suits both the Tories and their enfeebled opposition to make the story about May's failure. For those on the opposition benches it places the usual focus on the supposed personal weaknesses of their rival's leader - a rather normal kind of political ad homming. But for the Tories, pinning this mess on May is a preparatory form of scapegoating - literally placing their collective sins on the head of their sacrificial leader in the hope that she will take those sins into her impending political wilderness.

Sure, May triggered article 50 before her government had developed a withdrawal policy or before she had even secured agreement in principle from her Cabinet; sure, she placed people in charge of negotiating the withdrawal agreement who had absolutely no political inclination to agree anything with the EU, and many political reasons to scupper the possibility of an agreement; sure, she allowed ministers and junior ministers to make up policy on the hoof in response to questions from parliamentarians and journalists, or in newspaper columns, and failed to clamp down on internal misalignments; sure, she unilaterally declare her now famous "red lines" which were nothing more than soundbite propositions which she thought would chime positively with the electorate even as they imposed conditions that would almost guarantee failure at the negotiating table; sure, she then called a general election she didn't need to and trashed the majority her party enjoyed in the Commons; sure, after that election disaster she decided to carry on as if nothing had happened and just invited the political wing of the Old Testament into government - people (and I use that term lightly) who's entire history and political philosophy is focused around saying "NO!" to anything and everything; sure, she rebuffed several offers from the opposition and members of her party to create a cross-party steering and negotiation committee because she felt that whatever form of Brexit was negotiated it was going to be a Tory one and therefore a good one; sure, she then became the political play thing of the DUP and the Brexitarians in her own party because she could not achieve anything without their votes in Parliament, further throwing away any hope of ever developing a broad consensus in Parliament; and sure, now that she has created the conditions where Parliament is politically unable to agree with itself, and after ruling out the possibility (with the opposition's help I'll grant) of offering the public any say in deciding on the available options, we find our immediate future entirely dependent on a unanimous decision from the EU's heads of state. But the blame doesn't lie entirely at her feet.

It's a collective Tory failure. They all supported Cameron's promise of a referendum which he made to secure the support of backbench Brexitarians - a promise he never thought he'd have to keep, and when he was forced to honour it thought he could just coast to a win. High profile Tories campaigned for the Leave campaign knowingly peddling slogans and predictions which are indistinguishable from lies and misinformation. And once Cameron was "Off on his trotters" (Dyer, 2016) the Tory party, chiefly through the efforts of Rees-Mogg's black-hearted gang of fags and sycophants, has sabotaged everything May has tried to do. They've even tried to remove her from office, but in the meantime the so-called "Big Dogs" are sniping from the sidelines and jostling for position ready to take up the reigns of power they believe they were destined by birth to hold - once "May's Brexit" is over and done with that is.

[Brian Peacock]

Theresa May asks EU for Brexit delay until 30 June.

[Scot Dutchy]

Great. What that will achieve?

[rainbow]

The response should be:

Dear Tessy,

Up to you, dear. Withdraw Article 50, and you can have all the time you want.

Regards

Donny

[Svartalf]

Yeah, I don't think it will achieve much, the agreement hammered out between Brussels and may is all they will get, and taking more time will not bring much.

[Brian Peacock]

If you read TM's letter it offers no reason why the EU should extended the A50 period. It just says, "We want an extension. Can we have one please?" The reason, one suspects, is to give the PM more time to nag the House into accepting the negotiated deal which it has rejected twice already.

On the Parliamentary live stream at the moment Stephen Barclay, the minister for exiting the European Union, is commending the House to have confidence in the PM. Last week, before the last so-called meaningful vote on the negotiated deal, he stood at the dispatch box commending the House to accept the government's proposal and then waltzed into the lobby to vote against it. He then hinted that the government might bring forward another vote on the deal on Monday next.

What the fuck is going on?

[Rum]

Well it does say she needs the time to get the withdrawal deal ratified by parliament. She seems to be banking on the fact that she’ll panic MPs into voting for it the nearer we get to the cliff edge.

[Svartalf]

a tactic that is all to prone to backfiring, innit?

[Rum]

a tactic that is all to prone to backfiring, innit?

It is all high risk not to mention high stakes. I have to give her credit for her determination. A great many people would have gone by now.

[Svartalf]

well, I must admit that her tenacity, clinging to the job in spite of her own party oiling the floor under her feet is admirable, or totally silly, history will tell.