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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:17 am

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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:19 am

Huge rise in antisemitic abuse in UK since Hamas attack, says charity

"589% increase in number of incidents described as ‘watershed moment for antisemitism in the UK’"
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by JimC » Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:37 pm

It's a very slippery slope from justifiable outrage at the IDF's treatment of Palestinian civilians (even with equal outrage at the Hamas incursion) to straight-out anti-semitism...
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Woodbutcher » Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:38 pm

JimC wrote:
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It's a very slippery slope from justifiable outrage at the IDF's treatment of Palestinian civilians (even with equal outrage at the Hamas incursion) to straight-out anti-semitism...
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:46 pm

c'mon, you don't want to fucking nuke Jerusalem...
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Post by Tero » Wed Feb 21, 2024 3:48 pm

“Menachem, this is a holocaust,” Reagan told Begin.

Yes, an American leader used the H-word in conversation with an Israeli leader. Begin responded with sarcasm, telling the US president that “I think I know what a holocaust is.” Reagan, however, didn’t budge, insisting on the “imperative” for a ceasefire in Beirut.

Twenty minutes. That’s all the time it took for Begin to call back and tell the president he had ordered Sharon to stop the bombing. It was over. “I didn’t know I had that kind of power,” a surprised Reagan told an aide, upon putting down the phone.
The truth is that the commander-in-chief of the richest country in the history of the world is far from powerless and, like every commander-in-chief before him, possesses plenty of leverage.

How do we know? First, because members of the US defense establishment say so. Take Bruce Riedel, who spent three decades in the CIA and at the national security council, advising four different presidents. “The US has immense leverage,” Riedel pointed out in a recent interview. “Everyday we provide Israel with the missiles, with the drones, with the ammunition, that it needs to sustain a major military campaign like the campaign in Gaza.”
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:35 pm

That’s shortsighted. The US isn’t the only supplier, present and potential. The result will just be worse relations.
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Post by Tero » Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:56 pm

US planes may be needed but Israel has a big industry.
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by rainbow » Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:36 pm

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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:17 pm

rainbow wrote:
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Israel lied about rapes: https://imeu.org/article/fact-sheet-isr ... nformation
What about the 40 beheaded babies though?
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by aufbahrung » Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:57 am

Muslims taken over parliament here under the guise of a peace push. MP's be gone soon and Big Ben turned into a minaret to call the London caliphate to prayer. All going according to the Muslimic world conquest playbook.
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:18 am

On Wednesday the UK Parliament actually passed motions calling for an immediate ceasefire, the release of all hostages, recognition of the state of Palestine, a hold on Israel's military push into Rafah, and the immediate provision of humanitarianism relief into Gaza. Interesting that the right leaning press should frame that as Parliament being taken over by Muslims, eh?
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by rainbow » Fri Feb 23, 2024 9:51 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 11:17 pm
rainbow wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:36 pm
Israel lied about rapes: https://imeu.org/article/fact-sheet-isr ... nformation
What about the 40 beheaded babies though?
Gosh, I'd forgotten.

When are we to hear about the hundreds of dead people killed by IDF "friendly fire" on Oct 7?
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel has begun investigating possible breaches of the law by its forces during the Hamas attack on Oct. 7, the military said on Tuesday, following reports some Israeli civilians may have been killed by friendly fire in the fighting.06 Feb 2024
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-02-06/
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Re: Palestine v Israel.

Post by aufbahrung » Sat Feb 24, 2024 7:24 am

Watching a man put his hand in a machine and it tore his arm off. Question is was the machine to blame or the man for putting his hand where it don't belong? Numbers, that's for after the war Hamas began.
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