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Re: Donald Trump, A Track Record of Accomplishment

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:14 am

Forty Two wrote:If in, say, 2014, a Republican, of either the conservative or moderate variety, predicted that in 2017 a newly-elected GOP president and Congress would —

Cut corporate and individual taxes.
Repeal the Obamacare individual mandate.
Appoint a highly-respected conservative to the Supreme Court.
Appoint a one-year record number of judges to the district courts.
Get rid of reams of unnecessary regulations.
Destroy ISIS.
Approve pipeline projects and new oil drilling.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron ... le/2643791

A provision for drilling in ANWAR in the tax bill
Rollback of myriad unnecessary and costly regulations
lower corporate tax rate from 35% to 21%
move to territorial tax system, rather than worldwide taxation
reverse the bogus net neutrality regulations
rescind the Title IX "dear colleague" letter
Pulling out of the Paris Accords
Decertifying the Iran deal
Declaring Jerusalem the capital of Israel
Reestablish baseline immigration enforcement that has reduced illegal border crossings immediately
Good job creation record
Unemployment down
Inflation low
Industry on the upswing
Consumer confidence high
Business confidence high
Real estate on the upswing
GDP moving up over 3% and headed to 4% growth
Expanded sanctions on North Korea and got China to send a delegation

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... plishments

He declared November 7 as the National Day to honor the Victims of Communism.

Lot's more!

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Re: Donald Trump, A Track Record of Accomplishment

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:45 am

Hermit wrote:
Forty Two wrote:Tax cuts are good for the economy and are helpful to people who pay taxes.
That was not the experience in Kansas. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... as/542532/
it used to be states had to balance budgets
what happened?

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Post by Tero » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:50 am

”I’m winning I’m winning!”
Trump rolling in dough with new tax:

The elimination of the alternative minimum tax and the lowering of the pass-through tax rate for certain types of business income -- minus tax increases from eliminating many existing deductions -- would leave Trump $42 million better off, according to the New York Times analysis. (The alternative minimum tax requires that taxpayers with many deductions pay at least a minimum amount of taxes.)
The House version would allow "pass-through" business income to be taxed at 25 percent, rather than the current maximum of 39.6 percent. The Senate bill would use a different mechanism for such income that is less advantageous.
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Post by Tero » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:05 am

Hey Trump, you cut taxes. You promised a wall! Fake promise!! Loser!

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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:12 am

He doesn't pay tax because he's smart.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:23 am

Exactly. And we want smart people in the White House.
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Re: Donald Trump, A Track Record of Accomplishment

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:18 am

Tero wrote:Hey Trump, you cut taxes. You promised a wall! Fake promise!! Loser!
Several wall prototype samples are being tested now and you know it. Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, the irrational disagreement of anything Trump is for or says.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.

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Post by Animavore » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:11 am

Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

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Post by Animavore » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:15 am

Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:37 am

Tyrannical wrote:Racial Derangement Syndrome is real, the irrational disagreement of anything African Americans are for or say.
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Post by Animavore » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:25 pm

So it seems the Trump-cultist response to something like this...
Animavore wrote: I've nothing to say to an individual who cheers, claps, and gloats as Trump and his kakistocracy attempt to fuck over the poor, leave people to die out on the street without care, and attempt to cause massive ecological harm, all while stuffing their pockets with stolen money.
Is to write a gloating, cheering, clapping thread about "winning". Probably with the belief that they are getting to me. But I'll just do what I do any time I hear a child banging pots, and shouting, looking for attention. I just ignore them.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Dec 20, 2017 1:54 pm

Ignore who?
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Post by Animavore » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:05 pm

Exactly.
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Re: Donald Trump, A Track Record of Accomplishment

Post by Forty Two » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:07 pm

Rum wrote:I find it hard to believe you aren't parodying the fake news thing. Doublethink George Orwell called it.

Nearly everything on your list can just as easily be seen as a backward step.
Sure, and folks who think of them as a backward step would probably think that the opposite was a forward step. And, those that support these measures think that the opposite was a backward step.
Rum wrote: The Paris accord comes to mind immediately. It could easily have been renegotiated and sent a good message out to the rest of the world.
Perhaps, but in my view it was a huge waste of money.
Rum wrote: Coal is 'needed' ffs - where is your head??
Yes, because we do not have alternatives to completely replace fossil fuels, yet, and people's lives depended on coal mining. This was an issue in another thread, about the poverty in West Virginia in the US. That's coal country. And, coal itself powers a substantial portion of the world's electricity. Like it or not. You can't strip the system of coal until you have a replacement for that energy that doesn't jack up the price too quickly and too much. People depend on that energy to keep their kids warm.
Rum wrote: ISIS were well in retreat before Trump arrived on the scene. The American economy was powering along too - and with it job growth ad low inflation. Trump's policies have not a lot to do with any of that. Yet typically he takes credit for it. . You even had to add the word 'bogus' to the net neutrality issue because most people think throttling cheaper ISP data is a bad idea.
Net neutrality did not assure cheaper ISP data. Net neutrality is a boon to the big data users - google, netflix, facebook, etc. That's why they support it. http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/reade ... 47369.html Anyone who thinks these companies are lobbying hard for net neutrality because they want to make sure the individuals like you and me get the least expensive internet access on a nondiscriminatory basis is not being realistic. They support it because it helps protect their interests.

Re ISIS - http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... is-victory - the shift in rules of engagement and strategy occurred on his watch.

Trump's actions took immediate effect - deregulation - and other actions. The economy, of course, is an area where I'll credit your argument. Certainly, the US economy is hard to push around in a matter of months, so credit is due to the prior administration.
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Re: Donald Trump, A Track Record of Accomplishment

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 20, 2017 2:31 pm

And we need failing air bag deregulation and sloppily rezearched drugs and dirty waste water?

The ISP is the stronger player. Like corporations, Trump always sides with bigger player, the one in control. We don’t care about Google or Netflix. We want access to the other 99% of websites that gives us freedom of speech.
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