Herman Cain: It's Your Fault if You're Unemployed

[Coito ergo sum]

They really should have to have a job description for every job out there that says what the job entails and they should NOT be allowed to include things like "other duties as assigned." There is not anywhere close to enough regulations as to how businesses should run. Businesses should be told by the government how they are allowed to run - especially how they can treat their workers.

That doesn't make any sense. You've just put "laborers" and "assistants" out of work.

What if I need someone to work for me 8 hours a day and just do various things I need done? We can't cut a deal for $X an hour and the person comes in and I assign tasks as needed?

How specific does the description need to be. Do I need to write "post office deliveries and pick ups" and "restaurant deliveries and pick ups" , or can I say - "deliveries and pick ups?

How about I say "office work, as directed?" That's an injustice to a worker?

[Tyrannical]

Throw up some import tariffs against cheap labor countries like China to remove their price advantage and jobs will come back home.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Throw up some import tariffs against cheap labor countries like China to remove their price advantage and jobs will come back home.

But that would hurt business.

[Coito ergo sum]

Throw up some import tariffs against cheap labor countries like China to remove their price advantage and jobs will come back home.

I'm good with that. The problem is that such tariffs never occur in a vacuum, and China will throw up tariffs as well and drive our companies out of business there. I think GM does more business in China now than in the US. They love our cars there.

[Schneibster]

My favorite moment so far was when he announced the "666 plan" or "911 plan," whatever they're calling it these days. My immediate comment was that the surest sign of his amateurism was to make up a target for everyone to shoot at that has numbers in it in the middle of a plane flight, the absolute worst time ever for making up a slogan.

[Schneibster]

Throw up some import tariffs against cheap labor countries like China to remove their price advantage and jobs will come back home.

Gee, didn't Hoover do that just before the Great Depression?

Just sayin'.

[Coito ergo sum]

Probably. That's probably why the OWS-ers are advocating protectionist tariffs.

[MattShizzle]

Hoover was a typical Republican - "don't do anyhting to help the poor - that would reward laziness. A rugged individual will succeed if they want to." Hence they threw him out after 1 term.

[Schneibster]

I usually refer to him as the Hoover of Presidents. Named for his maximal suckage.

The changes that took place in the country, as my parents described them from the vantage point of Seattle, were reminiscent of what's been happening with the teagaggers and OWS. Even to the point of an early populist racist movement that got co-opted by the press, in their case Hearst and yellow journalism, and later was overcome when someone with their head on straight was put in charge. Nothing like Iraq, though, and we haven't made the mistake of Smoot-Hawley. Though someone was talking about tariffs earlier, without any evident knowledge of economics or history.

[Warren Dew]

If we take that number, 25%, as the true number, it still means that it is flat out wrong that "illegals are doing jobs that Americans WON'T do." The remaining 75% of folks doing those jobs are either American citizens or legal aliens. Americans WILL do those jobs. I know that for a fact because Americans do, in fact, do those jobs.

I would agree that some Americans will do those jobs, because some Americans do do them. That doesn't mean there aren't other Americans too lazy to bother.

[Warren Dew]

Throw up some import tariffs against cheap labor countries like China to remove their price advantage and jobs will come back home.

Either that, or we'll just do without the inexpensive manufactured goods that we currently take for granted, because we won't be able to afford them any more.

[laklak]

Here's my contract for anyone working for me - I tell you what to do and you do it. Pretty simple, actually.

Oh, hang on, I don't have anyone working for me any longer, because I've shut down the company. Got regulated out of business by the USDA. Guess those folks will have to go pick fruit while I live off my wife's salary. But hey, at least I'm not taking advantage of any poor proles any longer, that's good, right? It's more "fair".

[Cunt]

Here's my contract for anyone working for me - I tell you what to do and you do it. Pretty simple, actually.

Sounds like that was very successful for you.

You might want to check with some more successful business owners to see if your HR approach could use a tweak.

[laklak]

Oh, the business was successful, it was the maze of government regulations that did me in. Never had any problem finding people willing to work and do what I told them to do either. Particularly Mexicans, I love 'em. They take work seriously.

[amok]

Here's my contract for anyone working for me - I tell you what to do and you do it. Pretty simple, actually.

Oh, hang on, I don't have anyone working for me any longer, because I've shut down the company. Got regulated out of business by the USDA. Guess those folks will have to go pick fruit while I live off my wife's salary. But hey, at least I'm not taking advantage of any poor proles any longer, that's good, right? It's more "fair".

I understand the overall sentiment, re: expecting employees to work, but taking it to the extreme makes no sense, either. If someone is hired by a company, let's say, as a tailor, and the tailoring work the company has for a particular week is done by Thursday, of course it's reasonable to expect the employee to do related work such as organizing the stock or preparing tailoring-related chores. But hiring someone as a tailor, and then telling them to clean a toilet or build a cathedral or they're fired, just doesn't make sense (to me).