US Election 2020

[Hermit]

I choose to ignore the rest of your post because

Excellent idea!

Of course it is. After all, it is just more irrelevant diversion on your part.

The fact that you chose to ignore the relevant portion that makes up the bulk of the post you snipped out is trollish rather than excellent. Your attempt to goad me into breaking a rule of the forum users agreement fails once again.

[Scot Dutchy]

Is she not heading there?

[Tero]

Georgia district attorney says she will 'enforce the law without fear or favor' following Trump call

“Anyone who commits a felony violation of Georgia law in my jurisdiction will be held accountable,” Willis said. “Once the investigation is complete, this matter, like all matters, will be handled by our office based on the facts and the law.”

Willis’s statement came after David Worley, the sole Democrat on Georgia’s state Board of Elections, called for a civil and criminal probe over a phone call in which Trump pressured Raffensperger (R) to “find” more votes for him.

“It’s a crime to solicit election fraud, and asking the secretary to change the votes is a textbook definition of election fraud,” David Worley told The Washington Post, which first published the audio of Trump's call on Sunday.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administra ... thout-fear

[Tero]

Highly edited article, see Talk tab
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Unit ... l_election

Pressure on state and local officials

As the Trump campaign's lawsuits were repeatedly rejected in court, Trump personally communicated with Republican local and state officials in at least three states, including state legislators, attorneys general, and governors who had supported him in the general election and continued to support him. He pressured them to overturn the election results in their states by recounting votes, throwing out certain votes, or getting the state legislature to replace the elected Democratic slate of Electoral College members with a Republican slate of electors chosen by the legislature.[599] In late November, he personally phoned Republican members of two county electoral boards in Michigan, trying to get them to reverse their certification of the result in their county.[600] He then invited members of the Michigan state legislature to the White House, where they declined his suggestion that they choose a new slate of electors.[601] He repeatedly spoke to the Republican governor of Georgia and the secretary of state, demanding that they reverse their state's election results, threatening them with political retaliation when they did not, strongly criticizing them in speeches and tweets, and demanding that the governor resign.[602]

During the first week of December Trump twice phoned the speaker of the Pennsylvania state House of Representatives, urging him to appoint a replacement slate of electors; the speaker said he did not have that power but later joined in a letter encouraging the state's representatives in Congress to dispute the results.[599] In a phone call January 2, Trump pressured Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger to overturn the state's result, telling him "I just want to find 11,780 votes" and threatening him with legal action if he did not cooperate.[29][603] On January 4, 2021, Democratic congressional leaders, believing Trump "engaged in solicitation of, or conspiracy to commit, a number of election crimes", requested the FBI to investigate the incident.[604] In addition, while some House Republicans tried to defend Trump's Georgia call, Democrats began drafting a censure resolution.[605] Also on January 2, 2021, Trump took part in a mass phone call with nearly 300 state legislators from Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, in which he urged them to "decertify" the election results in their states.[606]

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Trump's call with Raffensberger
It seems roughly in-line with other stuff in 2020_United_States_presidential_election#Pressure_on_state_and_local_officials. I think a sentence is fine, but it's true the article is massive and that sort of nitty-gritty can be covered elsewhere; if we're not going to include it I would suggest generally rewriting / condensing that section, since including other stuff at similar levels of granularity but leaving that one out is awkward. Alternatively an existing sentence in there could be made more general (encompassing both this and other, comparable calls in one sentence.) --Aquillion (talk) 23:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

[Tero]

There is a chart that cannot be really read the NE 2nd district results went
52% Biden 47% Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Unit ... n_Nebraska

my county is the only one NOT in that 2nd district that went Biden

[Tero]

List of election lawsuits

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-elec ... l_election

[Tero]

Timeline for events tomorrow, starting 1PM ET
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... s-n1252609

In 2005, an objection to Ohio's electors and the vote on the objection took almost three hours. If Trump allies do challenge the vote in all six states targeted this time — Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — the vote count could easily go into Thursday.

The only time a senator has joined with a House member to object to a state's entire slate of electors was in 2005, when Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., and Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones, D-Ohio, objected to Ohio's votes, charging that there had been voter suppression because of long lines and missing voting machines in minority areas. The move, which theoretically could have changed the outcome of the election, wasn't supported by the defeated Democratic nominee, John Kerry, and it failed in the Senate by a vote of 74-1 and in the House by a vote of 267-31.

[Tero]

Palmer R:
Pence is now leaking to the New York Times about how unhappy he is, and trying to paint himself as some kind of hapless victim who can’t win for trying. It’s not clear why Pence seems to think that doing so will gain him any sympathy from anyone. But it’s fun to watch him squirming and crying like this.

Apparently, Pence is very unhappy about having been backed into this no-win corner. After all, Pence would love to keep alive his delusional fantasy that he’s somehow going to successfully run for President in 2024, even though he’s just as toxically unpopular as Trump is, and even Trump’s base doesn’t seem to like him much these days.

[Sean Hayden]

Pray your way out of it Pence, it's worked so well for the rest of 'merica.

[Cunt]

I looked, but I guess pErv couldn't find data to compare on Trump vs Biden online viewership.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume it didn't support his side of things.

[Cunt]

I just had a quick scan. It looks like Trump earned more votes in 2020, than Trump earned in 2016.

Of course, this doesn't suggest his popularity increased. Especially since Biden got more votes from his basement, with terrible campaigning.

He said if you didn't vote for him, you ain't black. That secured the black vote. He probably got the ladies out voting with his respectful treatment of that Tara Reid lady. I'm not sure what demographic all the kid-sniffing brought out, but it was probably the pederast vote.

And with his 'superpredators' comment, he likely locked up the wealthy white vote.

So while Trump didn't do as great as 'Hidin Bidin', he did increase popularity a bunch. Heck, even Cruz came around.

[Tero]

Cruz hates Trump's guts. But he's a politician, and every Cruz voter is also a Trump voter.

[Cunt]

That Lin Wood fella is sure going off! I wonder if that Roberts chap will have him grabbed for slander or something...

[Tero]

Poor Pence

Asked why he was meeting with the parliamentarian, Short said they are "trying to figure out the exact process."

He has no way of doing the VP task that won't label him, loyal puppydog, as a never-Trumper.

[Tero]

There is a chance Pence will not show up and it lands on the next GOP senator.