Hard Brexit or Hard Brexit

[Scot Dutchy]

Nope. Unification is the only option.

[Rum]

Nope. Unification is the only option.

It would be the simplest solution in principle but it isn't going to happen. And you know it. Not sure why you are pushing it unless sectarian violence turns you on.

[mistermack]

The DUP might want a hard border, but doubt if they want to risk the possible ramifications of it.
I'm sure that they know it would raise the risk of a return to violence to an unacceptable level. And also, it would condemn the North to being a backwater economically.

I think if they choose to bluff like this, their bluff should be called, and the full facts should be made clear to the public. But it's Irish politics. People take entrenched positions and end up with ludicrous stand-offs.

The nationalist side has it easy in this matter. They can smile quietly and support what is the obvious common sense solution, for once.

[Scot Dutchy]

Nope. Unification is the only option.

It would be the simplest solution in principle but it isn't going to happen. And you know it. Not sure why you are pushing it unless sectarian violence turns you on.

It is not going to happen? You have inside info? Sorry it is the only option for any viable peace in the future.

[Rum]

You don’t need inside info for goodness sake. The unionists are as nasty and capable of terrorism as the republicans. It has taken a huge amount of compromise and fudging issues the good old fashioned British way to stop the bombings. Any hint of unification and the unionists will start up. Any hint of a hard border and the IRA will. That’s why it’s such a tough nut to crack.

Yet another reason why voting leave was such a shitty thing.

[Svartalf]

Nope. Unification is the only option.

It would be the simplest solution in principle but it isn't going to happen. And you know it. Not sure why you are pushing it unless sectarian violence turns you on.

It is not going to happen? You have inside info? Sorry it is the only option for any viable peace in the future.

actually, unless you send the protos back to Britain, unification is a recipe for civil war, except it will be Orangemen instead of the provisional IRA throwing bombs.

[Scot Dutchy]

Nope. Unification is the only option.

It would be the simplest solution in principle but it isn't going to happen. And you know it. Not sure why you are pushing it unless sectarian violence turns you on.

It is not going to happen? You have inside info? Sorry it is the only option for any viable peace in the future.

actually, unless you send the protos back to Britain, unification is a recipe for civil war, except it will be Orangemen instead of the provisional IRA throwing bombs.

I doubt it. The proddies have little to fight for. The Orangemen just like marching and banging the drum.

[Svartalf]

make them part of a cat'licker dominated Irish Republic and you'll see what they'll fight for.

[Scot Dutchy]

Do tell me why the Irish Republic are dominated by cat'lickers?

[Svartalf]

Ask Ani, He'll confirm that's a fact

[Rum]

Do tell me why the Irish Republic are dominated by cat'lickers?

What do you mean 'why'? It is simply a fact. Even though as a religion is is much weaker these days there is an alignment between unionism and Protestantism, Catholicism and Republicanism. Identity if not so much religious practise these days.

[Scot Dutchy]

Do tell me why the Irish Republic are dominated by cat'lickers?

What do you mean 'why'? It is simply a fact. Even though as a religion is is much weaker these days there is an alignment between unionism and Protestantism, Catholicism and Republicanism. Identity if not so much religious practise these days.

The term cat'lickers I have never seen before. A shrinking minority still attend church. A typical UK perception. I dont have to ask Ani by the way as I have enough Irish family and contacts in Ireland. The catholic church is dying and there is little alignment with republicanism. The RoI has progressed which is one thing the Unionists have not done. Billy is still banging his wee drum. They are dinosaurs and its May's fault that she allowed them into this phoney position of power and has not got the guts to tell them where to get off.

[mistermack]

They're not in a phoney position of power.

There's no way that a border solution could be imposed, without their consent, or at least acquiescence.
The voting numbers in the commons don't come into it in this case.

And their position of power comes from the votes that they get at every election. Theresa May was never going to impose a solution over the heads of the Unionist majority, even if she had the commons numbers. It would be mental.

[Scot Dutchy]

You are so tiring like so many. The DUP has no power only thanks to May. How does it have power on its own? There is no NI government. Who has to pay attention to them? London could impose a deal if it worked with other parties. What would the Unionists do? Beat their drum harder?

[Rum]

You are so tiring like so many. The DUP has no power only thanks to May. How does it have power on its own? There is no NI government. Who has to pay attention to them? London could impose a deal if it worked with other parties. What would the Unionists do? Beat their drum harder?

You think the old wheeler dealer politicians at the top of the Conservative party don't know all their options? A more cunning and ruthless lot would be hard to find.