The Hillary-thread

[Scot Dutchy]

That a person would actually support a lump of shit like Trump says everything about that person.

[Tyrannical]

The Venezuelan Miss Universe contestant who Trump said got fat apparently drove her boyfriend's getaway car from an attempted murder, and threatened to kill a judge. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... zuela.html

So that means that Trump didn't call her fat?

God you love the tu quoque and it's variants.

Miss Universe contestant called fat, oh the misogny. Mr. Universe contestant called fat.......

[Forty Two]

The Venezuelan Miss Universe contestant who Trump said got fat apparently drove her boyfriend's getaway car from an attempted murder, and threatened to kill a judge. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... zuela.html

So that means that Trump didn't call her fat?

No, it doesn't, and I never said it did.

God you love the tu quoque and it's variants.

I made no tu quoque argument. I'll type slowly and use small words just for you - tu quoque is a form of argument which intends to discredit the validity of the opponent's logical argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion. What argument are you under the impression I was intending to discredit? Who do you believe was propounding the argument you think I intended to discredit?

You are a silly person.

[Forty Two]

The Venezuelan Miss Universe contestant who Trump said got fat apparently drove her boyfriend's getaway car from an attempted murder, and threatened to kill a judge. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... zuela.html

So that means that Trump didn't call her fat?

God you love the tu quoque and it's variants.

Miss Universe contestant called fat, oh the misogny. Mr. Universe contestant called fat.......

Chris Christie called fat by almost everyone...

Donald Trump called fat.... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.2792346

Newt Gingrich called fat by another member of Congress (Alan Grayson, published an article himself on Dailykos.com)....

Calling someone fat is really outrageous.

[Forty Two]

A non-deplorable Hillary supporter - http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/l ... 91716.html

[pErvinalia]

The Venezuelan Miss Universe contestant who Trump said got fat apparently drove her boyfriend's getaway car from an attempted murder, and threatened to kill a judge. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... zuela.html

So that means that Trump didn't call her fat?

No, it doesn't, and I never said it did.

God you love the tu quoque and it's variants.

I made no tu quoque argument. I'll type slowly and use small words just for you - tu quoque is a form of argument which intends to discredit the validity of the opponent's logical argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion. What argument are you under the impression I was intending to discredit? Who do you believe was propounding the argument you think I intended to discredit?

You are a silly person.

And you are heading for a suspension.

You brought up her alleged involvement in crime as a way to discredit her so that it would seem acceptable that Trump was a rude pig to her.

[L'Emmerdeur]

The Arizona Republic, a paper that has never endorsed a Democratic candidate for President of the United States in its 126 year history, has endorsed Clinton. It's an entertaining read, being largely an examination of the reasons why Trump is not qualified for the office.

[D]espite her flaws, Clinton is the superior choice.

She does not casually say things that embolden our adversaries and frighten our allies. Her approach to governance is mature, confident and rational.

That cannot be said of her opponent.

Clinton retains her composure under pressure. She’s tough. She doesn’t back down.

Trump responds to criticism with the petulance of verbal spit wads.

That’s beneath our national dignity.

[Brian Peacock]

I think there's a general misconception among Trumpeteers that criticism of their preserved candidate is somehow more than merely wrong, but malicious and vindictive bias in favour of Clinton. This isn't necessarily so but makes addressing Trump's erratic behaviour and shortcomings almost impossible.

[Forty Two]

The Venezuelan Miss Universe contestant who Trump said got fat apparently drove her boyfriend's getaway car from an attempted murder, and threatened to kill a judge. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... zuela.html

So that means that Trump didn't call her fat?

No, it doesn't, and I never said it did.

God you love the tu quoque and it's variants.

I made no tu quoque argument. I'll type slowly and use small words just for you - tu quoque is a form of argument which intends to discredit the validity of the opponent's logical argument by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with its conclusion. What argument are you under the impression I was intending to discredit? Who do you believe was propounding the argument you think I intended to discredit?

You are a silly person.

And you are heading for a suspension.

You brought up her alleged involvement in crime as a way to discredit her so that it would seem acceptable that Trump was a rude pig to her.

One, that has zero to do with tu quoque fallacy. Zero.

Two, that's not why I brought it up. You're inventing things again.

[Scot Dutchy]

I think there's a general misconception among Trumpeteers that criticism of their preserved candidate is somehow more than merely wrong, but malicious and vindictive bias in favour of Clinton. This isn't necessarily so but makes addressing Trump's erratic behaviour and shortcomings almost impossible.

Yep. You have seen it in Britain as well. The Corbynista's think every comment about him is pure negative malicious criticism.

[Forty Two]

Of course many Trump supporters are unable to accept criticism of their boy. That's not unique to them, though. Look at the Hillary supporters. The lack of self-awareness of Hillary supporters who refuse to criticize her, and claim all criticism of her is right wing fabrication, while looking aghast at Trump supporters who brook no criticism of their candidate is staggering.

Come on Hillary supporters - show your worth - what negative comments about her are something other than malicious criticism?

[as for me, I have criticized Trump. I have said I think he'll lose the election. I still do. I think he's crude and rude, and ill-tempered. I have said that he lost the debate on Monday, and before it happened I predicted that he would lose the debate. I honored Hillary's performance, stating that she was polished, more knowledgeable (even though she was far from perfect on her facts, too), better prepared, etc. - I can add that I find many of his comments stupid and I find him often inarticulate. So, although I prefer him to Hillary for many reasons I've stated, I have, in fact, not only accepted criticism as valid but also leveled it myself -- I can't think of one of you Hillary supporters here who have done the same - you may have -- but how about we all put our money where our mouths are on this one -- Dutchy? Care to show that you will admit and state what negative comments about Hillary are other than malicious? Brian Peacock? pErvin? Animavore?

[Tyrannical]

Miss Universe has an obligation, just as do professional athletes to be in shape. Trump was absolutely right to call her out on that.

[Scot Dutchy]

Miss Universe has an obligation, just as do professional athletes to be in shape. Trump was absolutely right to call her out on that.

You are really... Trump is a cunt and useless one at that. She probably did not allow him to poke her. Trump has an obligation to be human which he fails every time he wakes up in the morning.

[Svartalf]

Cunts are the most marvellous thing in creation, don't insult them by comparing Frump to them.

[Forty Two]

Oh, who cares about the damn Miss Universe contestant. It's a beauty pageant. And, many politicians are rude.

"Where is the G-damn f***ing flag? I want the G-damn f***ing flag up every f***ing morning at f***ing sunrise."
(From the book Inside The White House by Ronald Kessler, p. 244 - Hillary to the staff at the Arkansas Governor's mansion on Labor Day, 1991.

"You sold out, you mother f***er! You sold out!"
(From the book Inside by Joseph Califano, p. 213 - Hillary yelling at Democrat lawyer.)

'F**k off! It's enough that I have to see you ****-kickers every day, I'm not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut.'
(From the book American Evita by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 - Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with "Good Morning.")

"You f***ing idiot."
(From the book Crossfire p. 84 - Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event.)

"If you want to remain on this detail, get your f***ing ass over here and grab those bags!"
(From the book The First Partner p. 259 - Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.)

"Get f***ed! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!"
(From the book Hillary's Scheme p. 89 - Hillary's various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

"Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don't come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?"
(From the book Unlimited Access by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 - Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.)

"Where's the miserable c*ck sucker?"
(From the book The Truth About Hillary by Edward Klein, p. 5 - Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)

"Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!"
(From the book Dereliction of Duty, p. 71-72 - Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.)

"Son of a bitch."
(From the book American Evita by Christopher Anderson, p. 259 - Hillary's opinion of President George W. Bush when she found out he secretly visited Iraq just days before her highly publicized trip to Iraq.)

"What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!"
(From the book The Survivor by John Harris, p. 99 - Hillary screaming to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans had been invited to the Clinton White House.)

"Come on Bill, put your d**k up! You can't f**k her here!!"
(From the book Inside The White House by Ronald Kessler , p. 243 - Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally.)

http://selwynduke.typepad.com/selwynduk ... gar-m.html

Kessler writes flatteringly and critically about people in both parties. Regarding the Clintons, Kessler presents Chelsea as a model protectee who respected and appreciated her agents. He describes Bill as a difficult chief executive but an easygoing ex-president. And Kessler exposes Hillary as an epically abusive Arctic monster.

“When in public, Hillary smiles and acts graciously,” Kessler explains. “As soon as the cameras are gone, her angry personality, nastiness, and imperiousness become evident.”

He adds: “Hillary Clinton can make Richard Nixon look like Mahatma Gandhi.”

Kessler was an investigative reporter with the Wall Street Journal and Washington Post and has penned 19 other books. Among much more in “First Family Detail,” he reports:

 “Hillary was very rude to agents, and she didn’t appear to like law enforcement or the military,” former Secret Service agent Lloyd Bulman recalls. “She wouldn’t go over and meet military people or police officers, as most protectees do. She was just really rude to almost everybody. She’d act like she didn’t want you around, like you were beneath her.”
“Hillary didn’t like the military aides wearing their uniforms around the White House,” one former agent remembers. “She asked if they would wear business suits instead. The uniform’s a sign of pride, and they’re proud to wear their uniform. I know that the military was actually really offended by it.”

Former agent Jeff Crane says, “Hillary would cuss at Secret Service drivers for going over bumps.” Another former member of her detail recollects, “Hillary never talked to us . . . Most all members of first families would talk to us and smile. She never did that.”
“We spent years with her,” yet another Secret Service agent notes. “She never said thank you.”

Within the White House, Hillary had a “standing rule that no one spoke to her when she was going from one location to another,” says former FBI agent Coy Copeland. “In fact, anyone who would see her coming would just step into the first available office.”
One former Secret Service agent states, “If Hillary was walking down a hall, you were supposed to hide behind drapes used as partitions.”

Hillary one day ran into a White House electrician who was changing a light bulb in the upstairs family quarters. She screamed at him, because she had demanded that all repairs be performed while the Clintons were outside the Executive Mansion.
“She caught the guy on a ladder doing the light bulb,” says Franette McCulloch, who served at that time as assistant White House pastry chef. “He was a basket case.”

White House usher Christopher B. Emery unwisely called back Barbara Bush after she phoned him for computer troubleshooting. Emery helped the former first lady twice. Consequently, Kessler reports, Hillary sacked him. The father of four stayed jobless for a year.
While running for US Senate, Hillary stopped at an upstate New York 4-H Club. As one Secret Service agent says, Hillary saw farmers and cows and then erupted. “She turned to a staffer and said, ‘What the f - - - did we come here for? There’s no money here.’ ”
Secret Service “agents consider being assigned to her detail a form of punishment,” Kessler concludes. “In fact, agents say being on Hillary Clinton’s detail is the worst duty assignment in the Secret Service.”

http://nypost.com/2015/10/02/secret-ser ... work-with/