Is democracy too important to leave to the peeps?

[Brian Peacock]

The vast majority of the UK already knew which way they would vote even before the referendum was called.

What did the general public know about leaving the EU before the vote? What were they voting on? What did they know about the EU other than the warped commentary provided by Paul Dacre, Richard Desmond and Rupert Murdoch? Do you really think people like this are motivated by a desire to inspire the public to stand against totalitarianism - or is that just a convenient 'story'?

You will have to ask them, though it would mean talking to people and gasp some people might disagree with you. I trust the general population far more than I trust the media or the government.

And again, because you dodged the question, where do the general public get the information on which to base their, by your lights, trustworthy opinions?

Sorry grandad, us yoofs have this thing called the Intertubes or something, whatevar. You know us non sheep people don't listen to the corrupt MSM. We can seek out the truth and disregard the agenda pushing MSM.

Indeed, and the yoofs voted overwhelmingly to Remain.

[JimC]

Out of the mouths of babes...

[Scot Dutchy]

The youth understood far better what the results of Brexit would mean to their future lives. People in London, Scotland and Northern Island on the whole knew as well.
For many is was a protest against the government which of course was not the question. It was mess being fought out by members of the Bullingdon club. Whether is was coincidence it is hard to say but you might say the ultimate prank carried out by people who live in stratosphere of society. Such pranks were not unknown to the club who have been banned from every watering hole in Oxford. The trouble was it all backfired as the gullibility of British society was totally underrated in certain areas.

[pErvinalia]

What did the general public know about leaving the EU before the vote? What were they voting on? What did they know about the EU other than the warped commentary provided by Paul Dacre, Richard Desmond and Rupert Murdoch? Do you really think people like this are motivated by a desire to inspire the public to stand against totalitarianism - or is that just a convenient 'story'?

You will have to ask them, though it would mean talking to people and gasp some people might disagree with you. I trust the general population far more than I trust the media or the government.

And again, because you dodged the question, where do the general public get the information on which to base their, by your lights, trustworthy opinions?

Sorry grandad, us yoofs have this thing called the Intertubes or something, whatevar. You know us non sheep people don't listen to the corrupt MSM. We can seek out the truth and disregard the agenda pushing MSM.

Indeed, and the yoofs voted overwhelmingly to Remain.

Dave's an old conservative trapped in a yoof's body. Young and conservative... What a fucking embarrassment!

[Svartalf]

Well, he'd fit right in the Bulligndon club getting head from a dead pig

[Meekychuppet]

Referenda are the worst way to decide anything. You dont leave it to the electorate to make important decisions that what MP's are paid for. It is never a black and white decision.
Brexit was the worst decision made ever by any PM. The whole question was way over the head of the average voter and was reduced by the Leave campaign to one item; immigration which is in fact a non item in the EU. The repercussions of the vote was not even appreciated by the advocates of the leave campaign who were in fact playing a Bullingdon club game which got completely out hand which they even admitted has much.

Now everyone is walking around with egg on their faces. The Brexit has been kicked into the very long grass. May is hoping it will stay there for at least a good few years while memories go vague and disappear.

That might well be the biggest pile of horse shit I've ever read on here. Have you spoken to any 'out' voters?

Brexiters lied and lied. Most had not got a clue what they were voting for. It wont happen anyway.

I know right? The remain side are all angelic little snowflakes for whom the notion of lying is an offence to their humanity.

What nonsense.

The five stages of grief: anger, denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance. You're currently at denial. You'll get through it eventually.

[Meekychuppet]

I've spoken to many Out voters I've not heard one cogent argument from them .

ALL the ones I've talked to have tried to make it clear they aren't racists
"I'm not racist BUT..............."
and failed

Feck, I'd dearly love to know this. What is so great about you that you presume to stand in judgment over others like this?

[Scot Dutchy]

I know right? The remain side are all angelic little snowflakes for whom the notion of lying is an offence to their humanity.

What nonsense.

The five stages of grief: anger, denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance. You're currently at denial. You'll get through it eventually.

Who is in denial? You cant see reality; Brexit will not happen. Do you understand. I T W I L L N O T H A P P E N.

Now just get used to it.

[Meekychuppet]

I know right? The remain side are all angelic little snowflakes for whom the notion of lying is an offence to their humanity.

What nonsense.

The five stages of grief: anger, denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance. You're currently at denial. You'll get through it eventually.

Who is in denial? You cant see reality; Brexit will not happen. Do you understand. I T W I L L N O T H A P P E N.

Now just get used to it.

Big red letters. I'm convinced...

[Scot Dutchy]

Thats good. Well done.

[Meekychuppet]

Thats good. Well done.

Don't worry, I have screen capped all of this for when it does. Make your words sweet, you might have to eat them.

[Scot Dutchy]

Thats good. Well done.

Don't worry, I have screen capped all of this for when it does. Make your words sweet, you might have to eat them.

I have no worries about that. Brexit is dead. Art 50 will never be triggered on this side of the next British GE and by then memories will have faded and with the economic problems Britain have along with education, NHS and the railways nobody will be bothered and all will be quite happy that you are still a member.

[laklak]

I'd guess most people get their opinions from a combination of experience, thinking about stuff, peer group, and people they look up to.

Not me. I get most of my opinions from Romurous, the ancient Atlantean wizard king I channel. If I can't reach him then Mrs. Lak tells me what to think. Saves brain cells.

[Rum]

Whatever the reality there seems to be a general consensus that the exiteers were conservative (small C), patriotic little Englanders with rather too much paranoia about the impact of all them ferreners and the remainers were liberal lefty (small L) cheese eating hipsters who were happy to be overrun.

[MrJonno]

I know right? The remain side are all angelic little snowflakes for whom the notion of lying is an offence to their humanity.

What nonsense.

The five stages of grief: anger, denial, bargaining, depression, acceptance. You're currently at denial. You'll get through it eventually.

Who is in denial? You cant see reality; Brexit will not happen. Do you understand. I T W I L L N O T H A P P E N.

Now just get used to it.

Well I think its going to happen and I'm trying to get out of prison UK before its too late. Thinking it won't have is a nice faith position like there being a god or an afterlife. Sometimes I wish it could be true but unfortunately the real world doesn't give a shit about what I want