Labour MP killed after being stabbed and shot in the street

[Brian Peacock]

Just as in the US, where the gun nut killed fifty, it doesn't matter in the slightest what this nutter shouted or thought.
Loonies are loonies. They are fucking dangerous, if they get hold of a gun. They will kill someone for the craziest of reasons. Because they are fucking mental.

That's an excellent description of the military & those who command them

No, it is an excellent description of the prejudice and ignorance concerning the mentally ill.

Don't think there's much prejudice & ignorance about the military. On the contrary, they're lavishly supported & mollycoddled

Do you think everyone in the military is mentally ill?

[Galaxian]

Just as in the US, where the gun nut killed fifty, it doesn't matter in the slightest what this nutter shouted or thought.
Loonies are loonies. They are fucking dangerous, if they get hold of a gun. They will kill someone for the craziest of reasons. Because they are fucking mental.

That's an excellent description of the military & those who command them

No, it is an excellent description of the prejudice and ignorance concerning the mentally ill.

Don't think there's much prejudice & ignorance about the military. On the contrary, they're lavishly supported & mollycoddled

Do you think everyone in the military is mentally ill?

Degrees of mental illness & retardation, mental lassitude, gullible; not able/willing to think through what they're doing

[mistermack]

Loonies are loonies. They are fucking dangerous, if they get hold of a gun. They will kill someone for the craziest of reasons. Because they are fucking mental.

Are 'loonies' and 'fucking mental' your clinical diagnoses? Or are you yet another uninformed and uneducated mouth using yet another crime as an excuse to kick the mentally ill around?

Yes. Clinical diagnoses.
This is a public forum, and everybody understands those expressions.
A loony is someone who is off his head.
Mental means deluded. But fucking mental means wildly deluded.
It's all there in the textbooks.
Mentally ill can mean a huge swathe of things. To declare that some are dangerous, doesn't "kick all the others around".
Some dogs are fucking dangerous. To mention that doesn't denigrate all dogs.
You have a weird and childish way of thinking.

[Galaxian]

No one here has noticed that next to the unfortunate MP, Jo Cox, the one who had the best accolades from those who knew him was Thomas Mair, the patsy, the poor fall-guy.

Mr Mair's neighbors had nothing but good things to say about him; his quiet & helpful nature, that he took pride in his gardening work, that he didn't have a hateful bone in his body, that he had NO interest in politics & didn't even know what nationalist ideologies were, that he has a black half brother who states that Thomas was not at all racist, and that ALL who knew him are shocked that he is supposed to have done this murder.

Curious that this happened exactly as the BREXIT movement is gaining ascendancy. Slaughter of an MP is well worth it, eh?

Astonishingly, no one on this "Rationalia" (ha ha ha!!!) site seems to know about MK Ultra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid folks. Nothing to see here...move along, move along. No conspiracies by your lords & masters...it's all coincidence. Always has been, always will be. Keep guffawing as you lose your Constitution & are led away using one pretext or other

[Scot Dutchy]

WTF are you on. Well it about par for your course of course.

[Meekychuppet]

Loonies are loonies. They are fucking dangerous, if they get hold of a gun. They will kill someone for the craziest of reasons. Because they are fucking mental.

Are 'loonies' and 'fucking mental' your clinical diagnoses? Or are you yet another uninformed and uneducated mouth using yet another crime as an excuse to kick the mentally ill around?

Yes. Clinical diagnoses.
This is a public forum, and everybody understands those expressions.
A loony is someone who is off his head.
Mental means deluded. But fucking mental means wildly deluded.
It's all there in the textbooks.
Mentally ill can mean a huge swathe of things. To declare that some are dangerous, doesn't "kick all the others around".
Some dogs are fucking dangerous. To mention that doesn't denigrate all dogs.
You have a weird and childish way of thinking.

How do you know that everyone knows? What does "off his head" mean? What do you mean by deluded? After that, it's hilarious to see you drop the monolithic, prejudicial definitions and tell us that it means a swathe of things - which way is it? Not sure what dogs gave to do with it.

You'd have done well to just say that you spoke without thinking and admit that you subscribe to the same ubiquitous prejudice that the rest of the English speaking world does regarding mental illness.

[Meekychuppet]

No one here has noticed that next to the unfortunate MP, Jo Cox, the one who had the best accolades from those who knew him was Thomas Mair, the patsy, the poor fall-guy.

Mr Mair's neighbors had nothing but good things to say about him; his quiet & helpful nature, that he took pride in his gardening work, that he didn't have a hateful bone in his body, that he had NO interest in politics & didn't even know what nationalist ideologies were, that he has a black half brother who states that Thomas was not at all racist, and that ALL who knew him are shocked that he is supposed to have done this murder.

Curious that this happened exactly as the BREXIT movement is gaining ascendancy. Slaughter of an MP is well worth it, eh?

Astonishingly, no one on this "Rationalia" (ha ha ha!!!) site seems to know about MK Ultra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid folks. Nothing to see here...move along, move along. No conspiracies by your lords & masters...it's all coincidence. Always has been, always will be. Keep guffawing as you lose your Constitution & are led away using one pretext or other

What on earth are you wittering about?

[Strontium Dog]

Unethical journalists claiming he shouted "Britain First" without any evidence and eye witnesses say that never happened. Maria Eagle deleted her tweet about shouting "Britain First."

Leftist media very obviously trying to take advantage of the situation. Out right LYING to the public.

I am of course now wondering how Collector1337 reconciles his claim that the suspect shouting "Britain first" as he killed the MP was a pack of lies, given that the suspect gave his name in court as "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain", as that strongly suggests the initial reports were true.

Perhaps Collector would like to withdraw his initial claim?

[JimC]

Planned in the sense that he went out on Thursday knowing where Jo Cox would be with some thought to fulfilling an intent - perhaps. Planned in the sense that his politics played a part in his motivation - perhaps. But planned as part of a wider plot, who can tell at the moment?

But I suspect a "wider plot", involving orders from a right-wing organisation is highly unlikely, to say the least...

[pErvinalia]

No one here has noticed that next to the unfortunate MP, Jo Cox, the one who had the best accolades from those who knew him was Thomas Mair, the patsy, the poor fall-guy.

Mr Mair's neighbors had nothing but good things to say about him; his quiet & helpful nature, that he took pride in his gardening work, that he didn't have a hateful bone in his body, that he had NO interest in politics & didn't even know what nationalist ideologies were, that he has a black half brother who states that Thomas was not at all racist, and that ALL who knew him are shocked that he is supposed to have done this murder.

Curious that this happened exactly as the BREXIT movement is gaining ascendancy. Slaughter of an MP is well worth it, eh?

Astonishingly, no one on this "Rationalia" (ha ha ha!!!) site seems to know about MK Ultra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid folks. Nothing to see here...move along, move along. No conspiracies by your lords & masters...it's all coincidence. Always has been, always will be. Keep guffawing as you lose your Constitution & are led away using one pretext or other

I know all about MKUltra. That's how I know you are an Obama secret Muslim cointilpro operative. Don't think we don't know you are a triple agent.

[JimC]

Maybe even quadruple!

[Brian Peacock]

No one here has noticed that next to the unfortunate MP, Jo Cox, the one who had the best accolades from those who knew him was Thomas Mair, the patsy, the poor fall-guy.

Mr Mair's neighbors had nothing but good things to say about him; his quiet & helpful nature, that he took pride in his gardening work, that he didn't have a hateful bone in his body, that he had NO interest in politics & didn't even know what nationalist ideologies were, that he has a black half brother who states that Thomas was not at all racist, and that ALL who knew him are shocked that he is supposed to have done this murder.

Curious that this happened exactly as the BREXIT movement is gaining ascendancy. Slaughter of an MP is well worth it, eh?

Astonishingly, no one on this "Rationalia" (ha ha ha!!!) site seems to know about MK Ultra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

Just keep drinking the Kool-Aid folks. Nothing to see here...move along, move along. No conspiracies by your lords & masters...it's all coincidence. Always has been, always will be. Keep guffawing as you lose your Constitution & are led away using one pretext or other

What on earth are you wittering about?

Galaxian sees a conspiracy in opening a litre of milk.

[Seth]

Unethical journalists claiming he shouted "Britain First" without any evidence and eye witnesses say that never happened. Maria Eagle deleted her tweet about shouting "Britain First."

Leftist media very obviously trying to take advantage of the situation. Out right LYING to the public.

I am of course now wondering how Collector1337 reconciles his claim that the suspect shouting "Britain first" as he killed the MP was a pack of lies, given that the suspect gave his name in court as "Death to traitors, freedom for Britain", as that strongly suggests the initial reports were true.

Perhaps Collector would like to withdraw his initial claim?

Who cares? Nothing wrong with being a nationalist. In fact, being a nationalist is a very, very good idea for everyone who's not an illegal immigrant. Put up the barbed wire and charge it with 7000 volts, that'll do the trick.

[Brian Peacock]

[surreptitious57]

Psychopathy is a condition not an illness - a condition you don t get better from. Even so people with psychopathy and its less severe cousin sociopathy don t go around committing random acts of violence in automatic pilot mode as it were - such acts when they do occur require some sort of motivator just as with everybody else. People with a mental health diagnosis or an undiagnosed condition or illness should not be assumed to be psychotic that is they should not be assumed to be or confused for some one who is detached from reality antisocial violent towards others or unaware of their circumstances or the consequences of their actions. When people with a mental health diagnosis do present a level of risk of harm it is overwhelmingly more likely that they present a risk to themselves rather than others

Psychopaths may require motivation or reason to kill but they are still more capable of murder than non psychopaths as they cannot experience empathy or
remorse. Psychopathy is a subset of mental illness which means that while all psychopaths are mentally ill not all of the mentally ill are psychopaths. There
are also subsets within psychopathy itself. Twenty two specific classifications relating to the modus operandi of those who have raped or murdered multiple
times and been diagnosed as psychopaths. One does not however have to rape or murder to be one for like all mental illnesses it is primarily a state of mind
Physical acts are a manifestation of that but they are not common to all psychopaths. Quite the opposite in fact. For it is estimated that two per cent of the
adult population are psychopaths but the vast majority do not rape or murder. Probably because they have legitimate ways of expressing their tendencies or
because their psychopathy is less extreme relative to that of the criminal subset of psychopaths