Abortion is racist genocide in action

[JimC]

A first trimester fetus is certainly alive.

It is a potential human being, but has none of the other characteristics we recognise in humans. It is not in the same category as a baby.

[DaveDodo007]

Liberty=choice. How can a Libertarian reject individual freedom of choice?

Because that particular decision, at some point or other, involves initiating force upon someone else.

Which is beside the point, which is that PP is a racist organization that springs from the poisonous tree of racism and eugenics and has put on a gloss of faux-concern about women's rights to conceal it's rather more prosaic and cupidinous agenda which involves making lots of money and killing black babies by the truckload.

Even leaders of the black community happen to agree with me about the horrible effects of PP's activities on black families and culture.

For every abortion there is a man somewhere who for his pleasure put a woman in emotional stress enough to seek a abortion, Seth. The initial impetus is a man and the answer is to seek errant fathers and love-rats who have not provided the emotional support and cut their gooleys off. Won't need to happen much for the majority of men to read the signs and provide supporting structures for their women so they can be complete women in every measure.

So murdering babies iz teh menz fault now? Must be the privilege patriarchy rapist/murderers?

[pErvinalia]

Anyone who thinks an abortion doesn't terminate a potential human being, is working from another definition.

well that would be the first' human being' that Seth has ever cared about , shame he couldn't spend more time concentrating on those who have actually been born

He certainly seems to spend lots of time rationalizing and justifying ways to kill them, the second they trip the tightly-strung wire of his self interest...

[Seth]

So if she does so, all responsibility and liability rests with her, and the man is completely and absolutely absolved of any and all future responsibility or liability by virtue of the woman's sovereign rights over her body.

End of story.

Women wanted equality, and they got it...good and hard. (With apologies to H.L. Mencken)

I'd like to see you tell that to a judge, but obviously there's little danger of that.


Moreover, if an embryo is "Viable", didn't it instigate force and perhaps fraud against the mother by attaching itself to her uterus uninvited?

There's your problem right there, Sparky...it's not "uninvited." It's absolutely invited. Besides, an embryo doesn't have mens rea to do harm.

US courts have long held that paternity carries some obligations, if the mother chooses to pursue the issue. You would have none of that?

None whatsoever. No more than I'm liable for the cost of cleaning your house after I've been invited to a party there.

Your womb, your responsibility.

[piscator]

So if she does so, all responsibility and liability rests with her, and the man is completely and absolutely absolved of any and all future responsibility or liability by virtue of the woman's sovereign rights over her body.

End of story.

Women wanted equality, and they got it...good and hard. (With apologies to H.L. Mencken)

I'd like to see you tell that to a judge, but obviously there's little danger of that.


Moreover, if an embryo is "Viable", didn't it instigate force and perhaps fraud against the mother by attaching itself to her uterus uninvited?

There's your problem right there, Sparky...it's not "uninvited." It's absolutely invited. Besides, an embryo doesn't have mens rea to do harm.

US courts have long held that paternity carries some obligations, if the mother chooses to pursue the issue. You would have none of that?

None whatsoever. No more than I'm liable for the cost of cleaning your house after I've been invited to a party there.

Your womb, your responsibility.

You've never had a wife or kids, have you?

[mistermack]

None whatsoever. No more than I'm liable for the cost of cleaning your house after I've been invited to a party there.

Your womb, your responsibility.

That's not even relevant. An invitation to attend doesn't absolve you for any damage you might cause.

Not legally, or morally.
You miss even the simple stuff.

[Seth]

You've never had a wife or kids, have you?

Not relevant.

[Seth]

None whatsoever. No more than I'm liable for the cost of cleaning your house after I've been invited to a party there.

Your womb, your responsibility.

That's not even relevant. An invitation to attend doesn't absolve you for any damage you might cause.

Pregnancy isn't damage. Moreover when it's consensual it's a known risk the woman assumes, just like parachute failure is a known risk of skydiving and getting hit in the head with a pitch is a known risk of baseball.

Not legally, or morally.
You miss even the simple stuff.

What you don't know about the law or morality would fill a library or three.

[DaveDodo007]

I have never had a problem with parents who want to murder their brats. It is just the hypocrisy of it that pisses me off. You are pro murdering babies and that is it, so say so. There is always the mothers life is in danger, rape and some mental problems were compassion/medical procedures over rules the life of the unborn. Though all this shit about it being a cluster of cells, a blastocyst, fetus so it's all right is bullshit. We were all of them at one stage before we were born. Of course you may have a misscarrige which can't be helped but dumping your baby in a dumpster is for the best anyway for you would have made a lousy mother anyway. The feminist angle of being able to slit the babies throat at birth aka rejoicing every termination doesn't help promote pro (murdering babies) choice. It is funny that all you pro murdering babies are alive to defend the right to murder, it is lucky for you that your own mothers didn't feel the same way.

[piscator]

I have never had a problem with parents who want to murder their brats. It is just the hypocrisy of it that pisses me off. You are pro murdering babies and that is it, so say so. There is always the mothers life is in danger, rape and some mental problems were compassion/medical procedures over rules the life of the unborn. Though all this shit about it being a cluster of cells, a blastocyst, fetus so it's all right is bullshit. We were all of them at one stage before we were born. Of course you may have a misscarrige which can't be helped but dumping your baby in a dumpster is for the best anyway for you would have made a lousy mother anyway. The feminist angle of being able to slit the babies throat at birth aka rejoicing every termination doesn't help promote pro (murdering babies) choice. It is funny that all you pro murdering babies are alive to defend the right to murder, it is lucky for you that your own mothers didn't feel the same way.

See, at the moment of conception, a soul from Heaven enters the egg along with the sperm. That's why they lock women up for miscarrying.

[DaveDodo007]

I have never had a problem with parents who want to murder their brats. It is just the hypocrisy of it that pisses me off. You are pro murdering babies and that is it, so say so. There is always the mothers life is in danger, rape and some mental problems were compassion/medical procedures over rules the life of the unborn. Though all this shit about it being a cluster of cells, a blastocyst, fetus so it's all right is bullshit. We were all of them at one stage before we were born. Of course you may have a misscarrige which can't be helped but dumping your baby in a dumpster is for the best anyway for you would have made a lousy mother anyway. The feminist angle of being able to slit the babies throat at birth aka rejoicing every termination doesn't help promote pro (murdering babies) choice. It is funny that all you pro murdering babies are alive to defend the right to murder, it is lucky for you that your own mothers didn't feel the same way.

See, at the moment of conception, a soul from Heaven enters the egg along with the sperm. That's why they lock women up for miscarrying.

Well god knows what is best for us, a sun bathing seal should know this.

[Seth]

I have never had a problem with parents who want to murder their brats. It is just the hypocrisy of it that pisses me off. You are pro murdering babies and that is it, so say so. There is always the mothers life is in danger, rape and some mental problems were compassion/medical procedures over rules the life of the unborn. Though all this shit about it being a cluster of cells, a blastocyst, fetus so it's all right is bullshit. We were all of them at one stage before we were born. Of course you may have a misscarrige which can't be helped but dumping your baby in a dumpster is for the best anyway for you would have made a lousy mother anyway. The feminist angle of being able to slit the babies throat at birth aka rejoicing every termination doesn't help promote pro (murdering babies) choice. It is funny that all you pro murdering babies are alive to defend the right to murder, it is lucky for you that your own mothers didn't feel the same way.

See, at the moment of conception, a soul from Heaven enters the egg along with the sperm. That's why they lock women up for miscarrying.

Well god knows what is best for us, a sun bathing seal should know this.

A drunkard sunbathing seal...

[piscator]

"The most interesting goddamn seal in the world!"

-- Esteban Vihaio

[Robert_S]

LOL, Seth is pursuing a racist and anti-sex agenda again because he cant get laid and wants to keep black people at an economic disadvantage!

[Robert_S]

I have never had a problem with parents who want to murder their brats. It is just the hypocrisy of it that pisses me off. You are pro murdering babies and that is it, so say so. There is always the mothers life is in danger, rape and some mental problems were compassion/medical procedures over rules the life of the unborn. Though all this shit about it being a cluster of cells, a blastocyst, fetus so it's all right is bullshit. We were all of them at one stage before we were born. Of course you may have a misscarrige which can't be helped but dumping your baby in a dumpster is for the best anyway for you would have made a lousy mother anyway. The feminist angle of being able to slit the babies throat at birth aka rejoicing every termination doesn't help promote pro (murdering babies) choice. It is funny that all you pro murdering babies are alive to defend the right to murder, it is lucky for you that your own mothers didn't feel the same way.

See, at the moment of conception, a soul from Heaven enters the egg along with the sperm. That's why they lock women up for miscarrying.

Just a little while, for questioning. Every miscarriage shuld have an investigation because pwecious widlle embryo life is pwecious and we can't leave their deaths uninvestigated! Also,we should a state employed doctor examine all women who have gone more than two years without getting pregnant for signs of having had abortions!