Alan Turing given royal pardon.

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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by JimC » Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:54 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:So, they pardoned Oscar Wilde yet, or what? :tea:
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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:56 am

Hermit wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Which isn't what you originally said.
It's what Xamonas Chegwé said. I quoted him, agreed with him and expanded on the topic.
You said: "A pardon implies that he was incorrectly found guilty"
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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by Hermit » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:01 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Hermit wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Which isn't what you originally said.
It's what Xamonas Chegwé said. I quoted him, agreed with him and expanded on the topic.
You said: "A pardon implies that he was incorrectly found guilty"
Correction: Xamonas Chegwé said: "A pardon implies that he was incorrectly found guilty when, in fact, he was correctly found guilty - it's just that there never should have been such a crime to be guilty of.!" I quoted him. Did you miss the quotation marks? Or that I prefaced the quote with "Xamonas Chegwé is spot-on with this comment:"?
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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:23 am

Ahh fair enough. Why didn't you use the quote tags, you retard?

And regardless, a pardon doesn't mean that. You agreed with what he said, so my reply was just as relevant to you.
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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by Hermit » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:37 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Why didn't you use the quote tags, you retard?
I did not expect people to read the post who are too moronic to recognise traditional quotation marks. ;)
rEvolutionist wrote:And regardless, a pardon doesn't mean that. You agreed with what he said, so my reply was just as relevant to you.
You're right there. I think XC should have said something like "A pardon implies to the unwashed masses that he was incorrectly found guilty..." and I suspect that is exactly what he meant.
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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:40 am

I don't think it implies any such thing. It's simply an exoneration. For whatever reason.
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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:42 am

Thinking more on this, there are probably good reasons to apologise for a law, in some cases. I'm thinking particularly of the Stolen Generation in Australia. I'm not sure how many were affected by this homosexual law. But if it was significant, then an apology would be warranted like in the case of the Stolen Generation.
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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by Audley Strange » Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:55 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:So, they pardoned Oscar Wilde yet, or what? :tea:
I doubt it. First he was a self-promoting mick who I think annoyed the establishment just by being and secondly he was a bit too fond of young renters apparently.
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Re: Alan Turing given royal pardon.

Post by Svartalf » Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:01 am

Well, bugger the queen with a broomhandle so long ass Wilde has not gotten his pardon and apologies... he deserves them.
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