Weinergate

[Tyrannical]

It's not the alleged act so much as the possibility of lying to cover it up.

Weiner is required by law as he is a Congressman to report acts of hacking against his accounts, as that is what he claimed. But filing a false report is a serious crime.

[Gallstones]

Prudery--relative isn't it?

In the US the police don't issue tickets for swearing.

Anyone ever seen Deadwood? It is an HBO series.

Just because the FCC decided to fine Viacom for the Janet Jackson exposure does not mean that that single incident describes the attitudes of all Americans to nudity or sex or explicit language in the media or personal life.

Part of the problem with the Janet Jackson incident is that CBS and MTV
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/f ... ckson.html

had full advance notice of the sexually provocative nature of the segment, including the choreography, the songs and their lyrics (albeit apparently not the exposure of Ms. Jackson’s breast).[56] According to the CBS Response, these officials sought only to: (i) instruct a dancer to change her costume to one that was not as “revealing;” and (ii) have Kid Rock remove his reference in his performance to “bastards from the IRS,”[57] a line that he, in fact, delivered during the broadcast.

The policy is

Any consideration of government action against allegedly indecent programming must take into account the fact that such speech is protected under the First Amendment.[29] The federal courts consistently have upheld Congress’s authority to regulate the broadcast of indecent material, as well as the Commission’s interpretation and implementation of the governing statute.[30] Nevertheless, the First Amendment is a critical constitutional limitation that demands, in indecency determinations, that we proceed cautiously and with appropriate restraint.

At the time, this was the most watched Super Bowl ever with 144.4 million viewers.
There were 540,000 complaints.

So had it been just an unplanned wardrobe malfunction I bet Viacom would not have been fined.

[maiforpeace]

A man is accused of sending a picture of underwear on his body to a 21 year old woman.

A 46 year old married man, yes. I bet some of the people who have no problem with it on this thread would be all over him if he were Republican.

Where did anyone say they have no problem with it? At most CES said it was a non-story...otherwise most of the discussion has been about whether or not Americans are more prudish than people in other countries.

It's not the alleged act so much as the possibility of lying to cover it up.

Weiner is required by law as he is a Congressman to report acts of hacking against his accounts, as that is what he claimed. But filing a false report is a serious crime.

For the record, I think he's lying, and I'm a Democrat.

[Robert_S]

What we really want to know is:

Does he shave down there?

[JimC]

All male holders of public office should be subject to chemical castration while in office; if they get the science right, it may even be reversible when they leave their position...

Female office holders can do whatever the fuck they like...

[Gallstones]

I don't care who sends pictures of what to whom.

I wouldn't mind some pictures of some things sent to me by some certain persons though.

[JimC]

I don't care who sends pictures of what to whom.

I wouldn't mind some pictures of some things sent to me by some certain persons though.

You want a picture of my whiteboard at school, covered densely with complex equations, I just know it...

[Gallstones]

I don't care who sends pictures of what to whom.

I wouldn't mind some pictures of some things sent to me by some certain persons though.

You want a picture of my whiteboard at school, covered densely with complex equations, I just know it...

If it was a blackboard I'd say yes.

[JimC]

I don't care who sends pictures of what to whom.

I wouldn't mind some pictures of some things sent to me by some certain persons though.

You want a picture of my whiteboard at school, covered densely with complex equations, I just know it...

If it was a blackboard I'd say yes.

I was dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century, trailing a cloud of chalk dust all the way...

But now I am a master of modern educational technology...

[sandinista]

We are not talking about porn on TV but about seeing a tiny bit of flesh around the breast area. How does that disturb a young child? And if it does, it is living proof that something's wrong with the attitude of most people towards sex. This doesn't have to be exclusively Americans, but they seem to show that behaviour a lot more than, say, Europeans.

I don't think "a tiny bit of flesh around the breast area" is any problem on American TV, network or otherwise. And what's seen and said on regular TV channels nowadays is a lot more permissive than it was when I was a kid. I don't think TV here is repressive at all. How much American TV do you watch, or are you just going by reputation?

Thats what I am talking about, precisely, "a tiny bit of flesh around the breast area". Take Survivor for instance, they BLUR butt cracks and bits IN underwear. Tiny bits of flesh are exactly what we are talking about. The sad thing is...parents who (and tv networks) "have no problem with mainstream networks blurring out nudity." have no problems with the mass amounts of violence shown on mainstream networks OR with their own country bombing the shit out of poor people. Violence...A-OK, sex...OOOOOOHHHH Nooooooo, Not sex! fucking weak.

[Gallstones]

I don't care who sends pictures of what to whom.

I wouldn't mind some pictures of some things sent to me by some certain persons though.

You want a picture of my whiteboard at school, covered densely with complex equations, I just know it...

If it was a blackboard I'd say yes.

I was dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century, trailing a cloud of chalk dust all the way...

But now I am a master of modern educational technology...

They don't even write on a board anymore. They project shit on it.

[JimC]

^^^^^

We have those too, and I make use of them where they are relevant, but I insist on having something I can scrawl differential equations on...

[Robert_S]

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Thats what I am talking about, precisely, "a tiny bit of flesh around the breast area". Take Survivor for instance, they BLUR butt cracks and bits IN underwear. Tiny bits of flesh are exactly what we are talking about. The sad thing is...parents who (and tv networks) "have no problem with mainstream networks blurring out nudity." have no problems with the mass amounts of violence shown on mainstream networks OR with their own country bombing the shit out of poor people. Violence...A-OK, sex...OOOOOOHHHH Nooooooo, Not sex! fucking weak.

I agree with you about the sex being more taboo than the violence, although that's changing gradually.

At least I think it is from my meager sample of television watching which I think amounts to about 10 hours this year so far. Are you watching the corporate indoctrination machine more than I am?

[sandinista]

...
Thats what I am talking about, precisely, "a tiny bit of flesh around the breast area". Take Survivor for instance, they BLUR butt cracks and bits IN underwear. Tiny bits of flesh are exactly what we are talking about. The sad thing is...parents who (and tv networks) "have no problem with mainstream networks blurring out nudity." have no problems with the mass amounts of violence shown on mainstream networks OR with their own country bombing the shit out of poor people. Violence...A-OK, sex...OOOOOOHHHH Nooooooo, Not sex! fucking weak.

I agree with you about the sex being more taboo than the violence, although that's changing gradually.

At least I think it is from my meager sample of television watching which I think amounts to about 10 hours this year so far. Are you watching the corporate indoctrination machine more than I am?

well, more than 10 hours a year, but not so much...mostly just cbc news so I can yell at the tv.

[Tyrannical]

All male holders of public office should be subject to chemical castration while in office; if they get the science right, it may even be reversible when they leave their position...

Female office holders can do whatever the fuck they like...

as long as they take their daily dose of Midol