lol @ American law enforcement

[camoguard]

If you come to my cul-de-sac, chances are you'll make it out alive. I don't have a gun but also, I'm normally playing Rockband.

[egbert]

Cops don't go into Newtown unless there's a 911 call, even they have more sense than that. It's fucking jungle.

By design? (I mean political).

[egbert]

As for why that kid shot them, that's another question altogether.

Does the "Gay Panic" defense work for blacks in the USA?

[egbert]

Even then gang members wouldn't normally shoot brit tourists

They don't want to give a reason for the cops to go into their neighbourhood.

I remember reading somewhere it was a dumb kid that did it. They must have 'disrespected' the kid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13133791

If a white guy in Louisiana can shoot a Japanese exchange student because the kid went to the wrong house by mistake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori
shouldn't a black person have the same "right" to shoot a couple of "limey" students? I mean, isn't everyone equal under the law?

[.Morticia.]

Even then gang members wouldn't normally shoot brit tourists

They don't want to give a reason for the cops to go into their neighbourhood.

I remember reading somewhere it was a dumb kid that did it. They must have 'disrespected' the kid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13133791

If a white guy in Louisiana can shoot a Japanese exchange student because the kid went to the wrong house by mistake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori
shouldn't a black person have the same "right" to shoot a couple of "limey" students? I mean, isn't everyone equal under the law?

Well, that's what murderers think. They think they have the right to judge and give the death penalty to people they perceieve as having wronged them.

That wrong might be nothing more than existing and being similar to an individual they hate.

here's some interesting reading on the subject

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/con ... /159/4/688

[egbert]

Even then gang members wouldn't normally shoot brit tourists

They don't want to give a reason for the cops to go into their neighbourhood.

I remember reading somewhere it was a dumb kid that did it. They must have 'disrespected' the kid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13133791

If a white guy in Louisiana can shoot a Japanese exchange student because the kid went to the wrong house by mistake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori
shouldn't a black person have the same "right" to shoot a couple of "limey" students? I mean, isn't everyone equal under the law?

Well, that's what murderers think. They think they have the right to judge and give the death penalty to people they perceieve as having wronged them.

That wrong might be nothing more than existing and being similar to an individual they hate.

here's some interesting reading on the subject

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/con ... /159/4/688

I completeley agree with your sentiments. (I was being sarcastic). The icing on the cake is the RACIST "justice" system.

[.Morticia.]

I know you were being sarcastic

[Seth]

Here's what confuses me-- are we Americans supposed to think we have the only country where drunk tourists who wander around lost end up being the victims of violent crime?

IMHO, that's, well, retarded.

So true....

Mexico City, Juarez, Cairo, London, Moscow, Glasgow, Belfast, the list goes on and on of places where a drunken tourist is always in danger outside his hotel.

Lesson: Don't get drunk and wander about in the wee small hours in places unfamiliar to you. Stay sober, alert, and carry a gun.

Gotta say that when you get drunk, you're turning your personal safety over to someone else, and you don't have much room to complain if they don't take as good care of you as you might prefer.

And that's exactly why I never get drunk and always carry a gun.

[Seth]

Even then gang members wouldn't normally shoot brit tourists

They don't want to give a reason for the cops to go into their neighbourhood.

I remember reading somewhere it was a dumb kid that did it. They must have 'disrespected' the kid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13133791

If a white guy in Louisiana can shoot a Japanese exchange student because the kid went to the wrong house by mistake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori
shouldn't a black person have the same "right" to shoot a couple of "limey" students? I mean, isn't everyone equal under the law?

The "white guy in Louisana" didn't shoot the Japanese exchange student merely because the student went to the wrong house by mistake, he shot the student because the drunken, violent Japanese exchange student at the wrong house tried to break into the white guy's house repeatedly, and despite being told many times he would be shot if he didn't desist, and despite being presented with a frightened homeowner visibly armed with a handgun, the drunken, violent Japanese student continued to advance on the homeowner in a manner which reasonably lead the homeowner to believe his life, or his wife's life, was in imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury, which justified his firing his gun.

Lesson: Don't get drunk and wander about in the wee small hours of the morning in places unfamiliar to you, and don't try to violently break into any house anywhere, especially in the United States, because it'll likely get you justifiably shot dead.

[Seth]

And this is the cops' fault how? Drunks get in trouble the world over.

Except they only get riddled with bullets by blacks with special needs in the great US of A.

Son, you ever been to Lebanon, say in the '70s? Or Somalia when the warlords ruled the streets? The only reason you don't have chavs doing battle with machine guns there is the guns laws, which acknowledge that Brits shouldn't have guns because they'd kill each other with them.

yes. we would. Like all the other humans that kill eachother with them!! That's why we wisely decided not to have them. It's called wisdom and self awareness. Try it!!

I have three rifles.
Many of the people I know have many rifles and some handguns.
My rifles never speak to me and try to convince me to take them out and shoot someone.

No wisdom or self awareness needed. Just common sense.
Perhaps Brits lack common sense?

That's pretty obviously true isn't it? I mean, after all, they are so lacking in common sense and the ability to control their behavior that they have resorted to creating laws denying themselves the right to keep and bear arms precisely because they cannot be trusted with arms. Oh well, they're sheeple, and his is what happens when sheeple come over here and wander blithely among the jackels of society.

[Gallstones]

Even then gang members wouldn't normally shoot brit tourists

They don't want to give a reason for the cops to go into their neighbourhood.

I remember reading somewhere it was a dumb kid that did it. They must have 'disrespected' the kid.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13133791

If a white guy in Louisiana can shoot a Japanese exchange student because the kid went to the wrong house by mistake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoshihiro_Hattori
shouldn't a black person have the same "right" to shoot a couple of "limey" students? I mean, isn't everyone equal under the law?

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[Gallstones]

yes. we would. Like all the other humans that kill eachother with them!! That's why we wisely decided not to have them. It's called wisdom and self awareness. Try it!!

I have three rifles.
Many of the people I know have many rifles and some handguns.
My rifles never speak to me and try to convince me to take them out and shoot someone.

No wisdom or self awareness needed. Just common sense.
Perhaps Brits lack common sense?

That's pretty obviously true isn't it? I mean, after all, they are so lacking in common sense and the ability to control their behavior that they have resorted to creating laws denying themselves the right to keep and bear arms precisely because they cannot be trusted with arms. Oh well, they're sheeple, and his is what happens when sheeple come over here and wander blithely among the jackels of society.

Wait a minute, I don't want to get into a generalization. I was just poking a stick to stimulate discussion. And, I was a bit miffed when I did it. But I'm over it now.

[MrJonno]

That's pretty obviously true isn't it? I mean, after all, they are so lacking in common sense and the ability to control their behavior that they have resorted to creating laws denying themselves the right to keep and bear arms precisely because they cannot be trusted with arms. Oh well, they're sheeple, and his is what happens when sheeple come over here and wander blithely among the jackels of society.

Civilisation is about controling or redirecting many of humanities nasty qualities not encouraging it. Nature is shit people can do better should be the motto of any intelligent person

[Gallstones]

That's pretty obviously true isn't it? I mean, after all, they are so lacking in common sense and the ability to control their behavior that they have resorted to creating laws denying themselves the right to keep and bear arms precisely because they cannot be trusted with arms. Oh well, they're sheeple, and his is what happens when sheeple come over here and wander blithely among the jackels of society.

Civilisation is about controling or redirecting many of humanities nasty qualities not encouraging it. Nature is shit people can do better should be the motto of any intelligent person

So, within the boundaries of "do better" much must be excluded? And it must be excluded because, in the presence of that which must not enter "do better" people can't, do better as they are impulsive, out of control deviants?

Sorry, I'm just not feeling it.

[MrJonno]

Rape and war is pretty natural ,as is revenge none of these are good things. Human beings wanting to kill them neighbours over just about any petty difference is also pretty natural, probably can't beat that but what you can do is reduce the damage it does ie no guns

Also big on excluding very natural diseases especially the fatal ones