Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:39 pm

Warren Dew wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:As reported by money.cnn.com, Warren Farrell, author of Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap – and What Women Can Do About It, believes this is a case of comparable pay versus equal pay, or apples and oranges. He says men are more likely to make life-decisions that will lead to a higher annual salary. He says males are more apt (than women) to relocate or travel for work, take on more dangerous jobs (over 90 percent of workplace deaths are reportedly men), work in the difficult (read boring) sciences, seek jobs that require financial risk and work jobs in unpleasant environments.
The "life decisions" that men make that lead to a higher annual salary really just boil down to (1) "deciding" not to get pregnant, and (2) "deciding" not to breast feed their children. Those decisions put the men ahead of the women by months. At that point, a tax structure that penalizes parents who choose to work and pay for child care pressures most women to continue to stay out of the work force for years. Lose 5 or 10 years of experience, and you have the pay gap.

We can't fix the biology, but we could fix the tax structure. That would allow women to return to work after months instead of years, and the pay gap would shrink accordingly. Unfortunately, no one seems interested in addressing this issue.

I don't think the argument about more "dangerous" jobs holds up. Considering the tiny percentage of people who die at work these days, the pay premium for it ought at most be 1-2%, not 20%. That's assuming that the dangerous jobs are the ones that pay well, which I question.
They actually don't boil down to just those two things. They boil down to deciding not to stay home with the children (or not being able to even make that choice if they wanted to. I am not sure about the tax structure issue - parents with kids get all sorts of subsidies, which discriminate heavily against those who choose not to have children. It's unfair to single folks - gays who can't have kids and don't adopt.

Regarding the dangerous jobs thing - that wasn't just an "argument" - they had accumulated the statistics on those jobs.

Also included in the article was that women tend, simply, to go toward lower paying jobs with more flexibility. That's why the engineering, science and technical fields are male heavy, and the teaching and secretarial fields are female heavy.

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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:40 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:Women will start on the road to equality when they pay for half the dates and spend as much as men on Valentines Day....and buy men Engagement Watches costing thousands of dollars....

Oh...and take your own damn car in for oil changes! :lay:

And, is it really so hard to pump your own gas? :think:

....and stop it with the excessive foreplay.... :biggrin:

EDIT...oh, and dammit .... learn East, West, North and South! None of you knows where West is! :bunny:

cook your own dinner, and do your own laundry! :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :shotgun: :shotgun:
We'll cook ours, if when we go out you chicks pay for yours! :lay:

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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:41 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:We have a thread for pictures of our kids; you should post some there!
This thread would've turned out fine, if it 'tweren't for them meddling kids!
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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by kiki5711 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:41 pm

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Bella Fortuna wrote:Awwww, she's lovely, Warren. :flowers:
Thanks!

You realize, of course, that I will use your post as an excuse to flood the thread with baby pictures. I will pretend to keep them on topic, though.

So the question is, should we be encouraging this:

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or this:

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Adorable!!!!!!!! :biggrin:

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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Bella Fortuna » Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:42 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:We have a thread for pictures of our kids; you should post some there!
This thread would've turned out fine, if it 'tweren't for them meddling kids!
:funny:
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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:00 pm

"Why in 2010 is there such a gap between the rights of women in the West and those in developing nations, especially in the Muslim world? The next 100 years will not be as thrilling for women as the last 100 years. For women outside the West to achieve the same progress as Western women have achieved, we need to identify the principles underlying those ethnic and religious traditions that so many today aspire to revive and or preserve.
Feminists need to be wary of the celebration of 'cultural diversity' unless they want to inadvertently celebrate polygamy, child-marriage, marital rape, honor killings, wife beating, selective abortion of female fetuses and other traditions that are now legitimized in the name of culture.
Those who are passionate egalitarians need to broaden their agenda from social and economic issues and find the courage to identify the cultural factors that often cause all sorts of poverty--not just material poverty but also intellectual poverty, cultural poverty and moral poverty." - Ayaan Hirsi Ali


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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by leo-rcc » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:39 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:Happy Women's Equality Day for Iranian Women! http://www.rferl.org/content/Controvers ... 36632.html
You're a day late, the womenz are all behind the stove barefoot and pregnant again.
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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Trolldor » Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:54 pm

Dory wrote:Boy oh boy....FINALLY that day has come. I mean, seriously....we fought hard, haven't we, my fellow women? I'm so proud at our female-related accomplishments and everything that is female that we do!!! YAY FOR EQUALITY!!! We suffered for far too long....

Yay for womenhood.

Yay for equality!

Let's carry on the movement for future female generations and....uh....I can't keep this charade guys. I couldn't give any less shit.

And it's more like "I have boobs so i make the rules"... and it's true! In my findings. Make the food, yea...but who gets the money eh?
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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by kiki5711 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:03 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:Women will start on the road to equality when they pay for half the dates and spend as much as men on Valentines Day....and buy men Engagement Watches costing thousands of dollars....

Oh...and take your own damn car in for oil changes! :lay:

And, is it really so hard to pump your own gas? :think:

....and stop it with the excessive foreplay.... :biggrin:

EDIT...oh, and dammit .... learn East, West, North and South! None of you knows where West is! :bunny:

cook your own dinner, and do your own laundry! :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :shotgun: :shotgun:
We'll cook ours, if when we go out you chicks pay for yours! :lay:

If we have to pay for our own meal then you don't get no booty call!!! :shotgun:
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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Trolldor » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:04 pm

Who's asking?
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Clinton Huxley » Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:06 pm

Aparently, 1 in 4 lap-dancers has a degree.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 63252.html
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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:18 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
kiki5711 wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:Women will start on the road to equality when they pay for half the dates and spend as much as men on Valentines Day....and buy men Engagement Watches costing thousands of dollars....

Oh...and take your own damn car in for oil changes! :lay:

And, is it really so hard to pump your own gas? :think:

....and stop it with the excessive foreplay.... :biggrin:

EDIT...oh, and dammit .... learn East, West, North and South! None of you knows where West is! :bunny:

cook your own dinner, and do your own laundry! :parrot: :parrot: :parrot: :shotgun: :shotgun:
We'll cook ours, if when we go out you chicks pay for yours! :lay:

If we have to pay for our own meal then you don't get no booty call!!! :shotgun:

If you want some dick, you're going to have to start takin' us out and showin' us a good time! :dance:

When are you girls ever going to sweep us off our feet, put us on pedestals and make us feel special....? :funny:

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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Trolldor » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:18 pm

When they get over themselves.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:21 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:Aparently, 1 in 4 lap-dancers has a degree.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 63252.html
All the ones I've met have been in college.....

As for the article... it underestimates the money those women make. Lap dances in the US cost $15 to $20 a song, and the women probably do easily 5 to 10 an hour. Easily. And, then there are the additional charges...tips...etc.

It's all cash.

I've had several women say that six figures cash can be made with a little dedication.

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