We need to talk about Donald: the cursing & swearing thread

Post by **DRSB** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:09 am

Hermit

We are so not in trouble. CNN is just spreading Fake news again. Let me explain:

[Forty Two](a) there is a clear political motive to pin it on the Russians and link Putin to the Russians;
(b) the information provided to justify the claim is vague and open to multiple interpretations and doesn't link up to Russia.
(c) the intelligence sources won't go on record and are unnamed and anonymous;
(d) nobody has gone on record to say they've seen evidence that can't be disclosed due to security concerns;
(e) we know the intelligence agencies are not unwilling to lie or mislead, and they can also be wrong in good faith, and we have examples of times when intelligence agencies have asked us to trust them and they were wrong (Iraq WMD, Niger Uranium, etc.)[/Forty Two]

As long as President Trump is aware of Putin's possible ties to Russia, we are safe.

Post by **Hermit** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:41 am

DRSB wrote:Hermit
We are so not in trouble. CNN is just spreading Fake news again. Let me explain:

[Forty Two](a) there is a clear political motive to pin it on the Russians and link Putin to the Russians;
(b) the information provided to justify the claim is vague and open to multiple interpretations and doesn't link up to Russia.
(c) the intelligence sources won't go on record and are unnamed and anonymous;
(d) nobody has gone on record to say they've seen evidence that can't be disclosed due to security concerns;
(e) we know the intelligence agencies are not unwilling to lie or mislead, and they can also be wrong in good faith, and we have examples of times when intelligence agencies have asked us to trust them and they were wrong (Iraq WMD, Niger Uranium, etc.)[/Forty Two]
As long as President Trump is aware of Putin's possible ties to Russia, we are safe.

Not necessarily. Trump might get jealous of Putin's relationship with Russia and start chucking ICBMs out of his pram.

Post by **Svartalf** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:43 am

Brian Peacock wrote:(f) There's nothing illegal about talking to Russians anyway.

Sepends what russians, about what, and when... some talk with them might be construed as election rigging, or worse, treason.

Post by **Brian Peacock** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:19 am

Never!

Post by **mistermack** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:35 am

The US does it's best to rig virtually every election around the world, and has done for years.

Every country in the world has the right to rig a US election, as much as it can.

Obama even tried to rig the Brexit vote with threats about ends of queues. It might have actually swung it the other way. Or maybe that's what he wanted ??

Post by **Brian Peacock** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:06 am

Jared Kushner sealed Manhattan real estate deal with oligarch's firm cited in money-laundering case

Donald Trump’s son-in-law bought part of old New York Times building from Soviet-born tycoon, Guardian investigation into Russian money in NYC property market finds

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... _clipboard

Post by **pErvinalia** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:14 am

There's nothing wrong with doing business with money launderers.

Post by **Svartalf** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:25 am

pecunia non olet - Vespasian

Post by **Tero** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:27 pm

Terrific news. Trump sad!
Donald Trump Is Super Sad That Republicans Won't 'Protect Their President'

Post by **Forty Two** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:38 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:Jared Kushner sealed Manhattan real estate deal with oligarch's firm cited in money-laundering case

Donald Trump’s son-in-law bought part of old New York Times building from Soviet-born tycoon, Guardian investigation into Russian money in NYC property market finds

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... _clipboard

Oh....my.... gawd!

A wealthy, lifelong Democrat, named Jared Kushner bought a piece of New York City property from a "Soviet born tycoon." LOL. Soviet = bad. Tycoon = bad. Oh, yes, and he's an "oligarch" too. Nice way to paint the picture.

Lev Leviev - Soviet born - oh, yes - born in Uzbekhistan. And Jared Kushner bought part of a building from him. There's a scandal here somewhere. If you buy property from Soviet born rich guys, then there is a scandal.

Post by **Animavore** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:26 pm

Alarming increase of Conservatives, including Trump-favourite, Alex Jones, calling for civil war and egging millions of listeners on to kill liberals.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-alex-jone ... 9912?amp=1

Post by **Animavore** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:33 pm

Post by **pErvinalia** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:34 pm

Anyone watching The Handmaids? I worry that Mike Pence and his buddies see it as a handbook.

Post by **Animavore** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:35 pm

And since idiotic homophobes is completely on topic for this thread.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/07/22/th ... de21677fc8

Post by **pErvinalia** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:45 pm

Speaking of snowflakes...

rationalia.com

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