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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Sat Jul 17, 2021 4:01 am

If that is so, the question must be asked - why go down that path? To me, it is another example of the need to appease the most fanatical of the Trump Republicans, the ones that have gone furthest down the rabbit hole of conspiracy theories, and who are also the ones who will most actively seek vengeance on Republican politicians who are wavering in their support of Dear Leader...
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:14 am

I was given a year of free milkshakes once. The year passed and I hadn’t bothered to get even one.

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by JimC » Sat Jul 17, 2021 7:19 am

There can be a variety of reasons for political trends, often intertwined...
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Jul 17, 2021 9:58 pm

I played a bit more with this today and it doesn't look like the relationship holds up for other vaccines e.g. childhood MMR. :dunno: But if this is just the beginning of the Republican party war on vaccines I guess it wouldn't yet eh...
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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:02 am

Boebert explains equality, gays and lesbians and...stuff. Like the 14th Amendment which makes all MEN equal.
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Post by Tero » Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:10 am

Boebert skills seem to be three
-consistent pro guns
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"Since the riot, I have mixed feelings about her," said Frederick Engebretson, a 74-year-old unaffiliated voter in Whitewater. "There was talk going around that she sided with all those morons. Whether that's factual, I don't know, but it has raised some questions with me."

Richard Hirano, a 57-year-old Republican who voted for Donald Trump last year, isn't sure he wants Boebert to have another two-year term.

"She has said some really stupid things," Hirano said. "That is the problem with Trump, too, I think sometimes they just need to keep their mouths shut and focus on the issues, but they put too much of their opinions out there, which forces us center people to question why we voted for them in the first place."

Another unaffiliated voter said she would certainly not vote for Boebert.

"Hell, no -- never," said Jody Meakins, a 72-year-old retired teacher and unaffiliated voter who lives in Meeker. "I don't like that she struts around with a gun."
https://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-2653195582/

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Sun Jul 18, 2021 2:10 pm

Them people would have been happy to take the vaccine. But then the officials said it was safe. So they knew, then, that it wasn't.

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Post by Tero » Sun Jul 18, 2021 3:22 pm

Why does Robert Reich even think family values meant supporting families? It's just code for "we hate gays and anyone who is not Christian."
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Tero wrote:
Sun Jul 18, 2021 11:10 am
Boebert skills seem to be three
-consistent pro guns
-strutting
-Biden/vaccine bashing
"Since the riot, I have mixed feelings about her," said Frederick Engebretson, a 74-year-old unaffiliated voter in Whitewater. "There was talk going around that she sided with all those morons. Whether that's factual, I don't know, but it has raised some questions with me."

Richard Hirano, a 57-year-old Republican who voted for Donald Trump last year, isn't sure he wants Boebert to have another two-year term.

"She has said some really stupid things," Hirano said. "That is the problem with Trump, too, I think sometimes they just need to keep their mouths shut and focus on the issues, but they put too much of their opinions out there, which forces us center people to question why we voted for them in the first place."

Another unaffiliated voter said she would certainly not vote for Boebert.

"Hell, no -- never," said Jody Meakins, a 72-year-old retired teacher and unaffiliated voter who lives in Meeker. "I don't like that she struts around with a gun."
https://www.rawstory.com/lauren-boebert-2653195582/
She says some really stupid things? Oh really?

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Seabass » Sun Jul 18, 2021 6:44 pm

There are people rotting in prison (disproportionately more black, of course) for decades for marijuana possession. These fucking insurrectionists are being treated with kid gloves.

Judge frees QAnon believer charged in Capitol riot because 'he had no basic understanding of where he even was that day'
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Post by Tero » Sun Jul 18, 2021 8:34 pm

We didn't eat babies, so Q has a new mission: vaccines. Video/some text.
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Post by Hermit » Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:21 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:28 pm
Anti-vaccination has been going strong for awhile now, and it's global.
Strength varies, but yes, opposition to vaccination is just about as old as vaccination itself, and it never quite disappeared.

Here is a cartoon published in 1802, six years after British doctor Edward Jenner demonstrated that an infection with the relatively mild cowpox virus conferred immunity against the deadly smallpox virus. Apparently, the vaccine makes those inoculated by it grow cow-like appendages.

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One prominent anti-vaxxer was Mahatma Gandhi. He wrote a book titled A Guide to Health, a translation into English appeared in 1921. Part II, Chapter VI is about smallpox, in which he made his opinion about vaccination known. Part of it reads:
Vaccination is a barbarous practice, and it is one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time, not to be found even among the so-called savage races of the world. Its supporters are not content with its adoption by those who have no objection to it, but seek to impose it with the aid of penal laws and rigorous punishments on all people alike. The practice of vaccination is not very old, dating as it does from 1798 A.D. But, during this comparatively short period that has elapsed, millions have fallen a prey to the delusion that those who get themselves vaccinated are safe from the attack of small-pox. No one can say that small-pox will necessarily attack those who have not been vaccinated; for many cases have been observed of unvaccinated people being free from its attack. From the fact that some people who are not vaccinated do get the disease, we cannot, of course, conclude that they would have been immune if only they had got themselves vaccinated.

Moreover, vaccination is a very dirty process, for the serum which is introduced into the human body includes not only that of the cow, but also of the actual small-pox patient. An average man would even vomit at the mere sight of this stuff. If the hand happens to touch it, it is always washed with soap. The mere suggestion of tasting it fills us with indignation and disgust. But how few of those who get themselves vaccinated realise that they are in effect eating this filthy stuff! Most people know that, in several diseases, medicines and liquid food are injected into the blood, and that they are assimilated into the system more rapidly than if they were taken through the mouth. The only difference, in fact, between injection and the ordinary process of eating through the mouth is that the assimilation in the former case is instantaneous, while that in the latter is slow. And yet we do not shrink from getting ourselves vaccinated! As has been well said, cowards die a living death, and our craze for vaccination is solely due to the fear of death or disfigurement by small-pox.

I cannot also help feeling that vaccination is a violation of the dictates of religion and morality [...]
And here is a cartoon lampooning vaccine hesitancy. It was published in 1930

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Sean Hayden wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 11:28 pm
I'm guessing we'll find a fairly consistent amount of hesitation in the population across time and politics... :dunno:
Neither is the case. I leave you to ponder the massive differences concerning the amount of hesitation in populations across time and politics as revealed by Ipsos polls done in December 2020 and February 2021.

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Post by Tero » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:32 am

Clever! Who would want the same healthcare as trashy poor people and illegals?
Greene said, “I'm a conservative wife, mother of three, and businesswoman in the construction industry who stands with President Trump and against the left-wing socialists who want to wreck our country.”

Greene stated, “I’m running to stop gun control, open borders, the Green New Deal, and socialism.”

Greene’s campaign said, “Radical socialists want Americans on the same government-run healthcare plan with welfare recipients and illegal immigrants. Marjorie Greene is fighting against these radical socialists and will take the fight to Congress.”
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Post by Tero » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:40 am

Lindsey Graham floats Senate GOP leaving Washington, DC to deny a quorum for Democratic infrastructure bill (51 needed)
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He added: "If for some reason, they pass the budget resolution to bring that [$3.5 trillion] bill to the floor of the United States Senate ... You gotta have a quorum to pass a bill in the Senate. I would leave before I'd let that happen. So, to my Republican colleagues, we may learn something from our Democratic friends in Texas when it comes to avoiding a $3.5 trillion tax-and-spend package. Leave town."

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Re: Republicans: continued

Post by Tero » Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:55 am

Breitbart
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) railed against communists during a speech at Turning Point USA’s Student Action Summit on Sunday, noting that people only seem to flee communist-run countries for America, not the other way around. [T]he thing that liberals never seem to understand if you go down to Key West is the rafts are only going in one direction. Just once I want to see some left-wing socialist — I want to see Bernie Sanders, I want to see Elizabeth Warren, I want to see AOC go down to Key West, get on a raft, and sail 90 miles south to Cuba.

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