The thread where you couldn't be bothered posting the article

[pErvinalia]

Sophia Vergara is being sued by her embryos. Yes, you read that right. Merka!

[Hermit]

Sophia Vergara is being sued by her embryos. Yes, you read that right. Merka!

The plaintiffs argue they are being deprived of the chance to be born and should receive their inheritance via funds that have been placed in trust for them.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-09/s ... os/8103726

'Merca

[Scot Dutchy]

A mad mad world. IVF should be banned. It is damaging the gene pool.

[Hermit]

A mad mad world. IVF should be banned. It is damaging the gene pool.

You are proof that the gene pool is damaged despite IVF.

[pErvinalia]

Hurt Vilders just got done for hate speech. Personally, I think this is part of a plan to increase his vote..

[Scot Dutchy]

Hurt Vilders just got done for hate speech. Personally, I think this is part of a plan to increase his vote..

What it will do is polarise it. The true idiots that support him will continue their extreme position but the doubters will drop him like a stone. He would have to take another 30% (which is physically impossible) of the vote to gain power but that would be only in the Second Chamber. He has absolutely no majority support in the First Chamber (Senaat) for which the elections are over two years.

He has one massive problem and that is no one else would form a coalition with him. He is politically dead and just a Second Chamber oxygen stealer.

[JimC]

Hurt Vilders just got done for hate speech. Personally, I think this is part of a plan to increase his vote..

What it will do is polarise it. The true idiots that support him will continue their extreme position but the doubters will drop him like a stone. He would have to take another 30% (which is physically impossible) of the vote to gain power but that would be only in the Second Chamber. He has absolutely no majority support in the First Chamber (Senaat) for which the elections are over two years.

He has one massive problem and that is no one else would form a coalition with him. He is politically dead and just a Second Chamber oxygen stealer.

I suppose you know your own country's politics.

But you are sounding a little like those who said Trump would never be elected...

[Scot Dutchy]

Jim Dutch politics are basically thanks to the system are fairly stable. We dont have great swings because of voter loyalty. Anybody telling out and out lies like Trump just would fail here. Widers party may at present be the largest but that is relative and hardly plays a role. It is who you get into a coalition and as I said no one is going to work with him.
He has 30 seats at present in the polls but he still has to gain 46 more just to have a single seat majority which under our system is impossible and never been down since the second world war. Even in the worst case scenario he would still have to deal with the first chamber and the Supreme Court.
The far more popular Pim Fortuijn never got anywhere near that.

Wilders is a one man band btw. He is the only official member of his party. It is the weirdest construction so as avoid criticism from a party committee.

[Hermit]

Jim Dutch politics are basically thanks to the system are fairly stable. We dont have great swings because of voter loyalty. Anybody telling out and out lies like Trump just would fail here. Widers party may at present be the largest but that is relative and hardly plays a role. It is who you get into a coalition and as I said no one is going to work with him.
He has 30 seats at present in the polls but he still has to gain 46 more just to have a single seat majority which under our system is impossible and never been down since the second world war. Even in the worst case scenario he would still have to deal with the first chamber and the Supreme Court.
The far more popular Pim Fortuijn never got anywhere near that.

In short: Can never happen. That is precisely what Jim said: "you are sounding a little like those who said Trump would never be elected..." I'd just drop the "a little" from his observation.

[JimC]

There may be some structural reasons in the Dutch electoral set-up (as alluded to by Scot) that would make it highly unlikely that he can actually achieve rule, unlike Trump. But it would be quite possible for his vote to increase markedly, which at the very least would throw shock waves through the Dutch body politic.

[Scot Dutchy]

Jim Dutch politics are basically thanks to the system are fairly stable. We dont have great swings because of voter loyalty. Anybody telling out and out lies like Trump just would fail here. Widers party may at present be the largest but that is relative and hardly plays a role. It is who you get into a coalition and as I said no one is going to work with him.
He has 30 seats at present in the polls but he still has to gain 46 more just to have a single seat majority which under our system is impossible and never been down since the second world war. Even in the worst case scenario he would still have to deal with the first chamber and the Supreme Court.
The far more popular Pim Fortuijn never got anywhere near that.

In short: Can never happen. That is precisely what Jim said: "you are sounding a little like those who said Trump would never be elected..." I'd just drop the "a little" from his observation.

Go and take a walk somewhere and just try to learn something because once again you are talking bollocks as always.

[Scot Dutchy]

There may be some structural reasons in the Dutch electoral set-up (as alluded to by Scot) that would make it highly unlikely that he can actually achieve rule, unlike Trump. But it would be quite possible for his vote to increase markedly, which at the very least would throw shock waves through the Dutch body politic.

As I explained for him to get more than 50% is impossible. Fortuijn was far more popular and only made 40 odd seats. You need 76 to have a majority and one of a majority is not safe by any stretch of imagination. He has trouble enough with the few he has at present keeping their noses in the same direction. He is too much of a narcissist to handle 70+ members.

[Hermit]

you are sounding a little like those who said Trump would never be elected...

As I explained for him to get more than 50% is impossible.

Aaaaaaand you've done it again.

[Scot Dutchy]

you are sounding a little like those who said Trump would never be elected...

As I explained for him to get more than 50% is impossible.

Aaaaaaand you've done it again.

You dont understand do you. Incapable of understanding a country's political system? The big expert are we? Just explain how Wilders is going to get more than 50% of the vote?

[NineBerry]

More than 50% of the citizens vote for him.