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Re: State v Zimmerman

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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Gallstones » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:02 am

Zimmerman verdict vindicates citizen patrols, self-defense
The jury got it right, and non-racist America rejoices that there is still common sense, honesty and decency aware of identifying justice in this country. America also believes that the entire prosecutorial team should be ashamed of themselves and disbarred for ignoring the obvious and kowtowing to the pure racism that forced the politically correct lie that only black lives killed by non-blacks matter, which is why there are no headlines, no protests, no prosecutions and no Barak Obama or Eric Holder meddling in the nonstop black-on-black slaughter in their gun-free zone of Chicago.
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:05 am

Good of them to speak for all of America.
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Seth » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:28 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:What do you think of this article? http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_ ... tions.html
I thought it was an honest admission that he had been wilfully ignorant but decided to actually learn something before pontificating.

That being said, his conclusion is still overflowing with liberal bias. Why is it that nobody on the left, or in the black community is willing to consider even for a moment that Martin formed a malicious and deadly intent after he broke contact with Zimmerman the first time?

Everybody who is carping about it seems to think he was that spindly 14 year old in the highly misleading photo published by the news media right after the shooting that implied Martin was a "child." He wasn't. He was a young adult who was fully capable of beating the life out of someone, and he was NOT unarmed. As I've said before, just because your assailant doesn't have a gun or knife doesn't mean he's not armed and cannot be a deadly threat. People get beaten to death and permanently disabled by fists and boots all the time. Far more often than with guns or knives in fact, by 66% to 26% according to the Bureau of justice Statistics.
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This is and has always been about race-baiting and race-card playing by the media and black community agitators like Al Sharpton and Barack Obama and Eric Holder.

It's really simple. Martin's dead because he initiated a confrontation when he didn't need to do so and he did it in a violent manner.

Doesn't matter what color either of the parties was, the result would have been the same.
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Daedalus » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:17 am

Gallstones wrote:Zimmerman verdict vindicates citizen patrols, self-defense
The jury got it right, and non-racist America rejoices that there is still common sense, honesty and decency aware of identifying justice in this country. America also believes that the entire prosecutorial team should be ashamed of themselves and disbarred for ignoring the obvious and kowtowing to the pure racism that forced the politically correct lie that only black lives killed by non-blacks matter, which is why there are no headlines, no protests, no prosecutions and no Barak Obama or Eric Holder meddling in the nonstop black-on-black slaughter in their gun-free zone of Chicago.
Yay, so it's a Rorschach test for left AND right wing nutjobs. :read:
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Audley Strange » Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:28 pm

It really is. I do pity the other 638 Americans stuck in the middle of such loons.
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Daedalus » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:27 pm

Audley Strange wrote:It really is. I do pity the other 638 Americans stuck in the middle of such loons.
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:03 pm

I don't feel like I made it a race issue or a left vs right thing. I didn't base my decision about what happened and what should be done about it on its implications for gun laws, citizen patrols, or race relations - "the big picture".

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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:44 pm

There's important lessons to be learned.If I were a black man in FL I would not pull out even a phone from my pocket when some creepy ass cracker faces me. Similarly, as a white dude, I would ignore black dudes. If they come up to me and threaten me verbally, I'll ask them to take my wallet and go away. My phone will be pass code protected.

If they did not have concealed weapon permits in FL, none of that would be necessary.

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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Collector1337 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:17 pm

Tero wrote:There's important lessons to be learned.If I were a black man in FL I would not pull out even a phone from my pocket when some creepy ass cracker faces me. Similarly, as a white dude, I would ignore black dudes. If they come up to me and threaten me verbally, I'll ask them to take my wallet and go away. My phone will be pass code protected.

If they did not have concealed weapon permits in FL, none of that would be necessary.
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:22 pm

Don't tell me: you have no sense of humor either?

About time for me to leave this thread. Martin remains dead, so no new evidence will ever appear.

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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Collector1337 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:25 pm

Tero wrote:Don't tell me: you have no sense of humor either?

About time for me to leave this thread. Martin remains dead, so no new evidence will ever appear.
If I threaten you, will you just hand your wallet over without being asked for it? Or only if I'm black?
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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Warren Dew » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:12 pm

Collector1337 wrote:
Tero wrote:There's important lessons to be learned.If I were a black man in FL I would not pull out even a phone from my pocket when some creepy ass cracker faces me. Similarly, as a white dude, I would ignore black dudes. If they come up to me and threaten me verbally, I'll ask them to take my wallet and go away. My phone will be pass code protected.

If they did not have concealed weapon permits in FL, none of that would be necessary.
You're not very bright, are you?
Why the personal attack? If you think he's misinformed and it's worth responding, go ahead and explain where he has it wrong.

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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Warren Dew » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:15 pm

Tero wrote:There's important lessons to be learned.If I were a black man in FL I would not pull out even a phone from my pocket when some creepy ass cracker faces me. Similarly, as a white dude, I would ignore black dudes. If they come up to me and threaten me verbally, I'll ask them to take my wallet and go away. My phone will be pass code protected.
I don't think treating everyone as if they are nothing more than a race is a good idea, even in Florida.

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Re: State v Zimmerman

Post by Tero » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:24 pm

I'll hand over my wallet to anyone who needs it bad enough. The 100-200 dollars in there is trivial compared to my IRA account. To which I won't have access to when I'm dead.

Outa here, finally.

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