Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Tero » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:39 pm

International disaster, gonna be a blaster
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International disaster, international disaster
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Tero » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:46 pm

Walls do not work, Cunt
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... Lt7jdS1xFI
your example was a single family home. Country walls fail.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:58 pm

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Seabass » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:50 am

Make America polluted again!

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In just two years, President Trump has unleashed a regulatory rollback, lobbied for and cheered on by industry, with little parallel in the past half-century. Mr. Trump enthusiastically promotes the changes as creating jobs, freeing business from the shackles of government and helping the economy grow.

The trade-offs, while often out of public view, are real — frighteningly so, for some people — imperiling progress in cleaning up the air we breathe and the water we drink, and in some cases upending the very relationship with the environment around us.

Since Mr. Trump took office, his approach on the environment has been to neutralize the most rigorous Obama-era restrictions, nearly 80 of which have been blocked, delayed or targeted for repeal, according to an analysis of data by The New York Times.

With this running start, Mr. Trump is already on track to leave an indelible mark on the American landscape, even with a decline in some major pollutants from the ever-shrinking coal industry. While Washington has been consumed by scandals surrounding the president’s top officials on environmental policy — both the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency and the Interior secretary have been driven from his cabinet — Mr. Trump’s vision is taking root in places as diverse as rural California, urban Texas, West Virginian coal country and North Dakota’s energy corridor.

While the Obama administration sought to tackle pollution problems in all four states and nationally, Mr. Trump’s regulatory ambitions extend beyond Republican distaste for what they considered unilateral overreach by his Democratic predecessor; pursuing them in full force, Mr. Trump would shift the debate about the environment sharply in the direction of industry interests, further unraveling what had been, before the Obama administration, a loose bipartisan consensus dating in part to the Nixon administration.
Had Donald J. Trump not won the presidency in 2016, millions of pounds of chlorpyrifos most likely would not have been applied to American crops over the past 21 months. It would not have sickened substantial numbers of farm workers, or risked what the Environmental Protection Agency’s own studies suggest could be continued long-term health problems for others exposed to the chemical at low levels.

Widespread concerns about chlorpyrifos led to its removal for nearly all residential uses in 2000. Environmental groups kept pushing, and two filed a petition with the E.P.A. in 2007 to ban it entirely on food crops. The E.P.A. eventually agreed in 2015, released its revised human health risk assessment in November 2016, and was ordered by a court to “take final action” by the end of March 2017.

Days after the assessment was released, Mr. Trump won the election. DowDuPont, the leading maker of the pesticide, donated $1 million to his inauguration. One of the early acts of the man Mr. Trump appointed to head the E.P.A., Scott Pruitt, was to quash the chlorpyrifos ban on March 29, 2017.

Since taking office, Mr. Trump has consistently sided with powerful economic constituencies in setting policy toward the air we breathe, the water we drink and the presence of chemicals in our communities.

In the process, he has frequently rejected or given short shrift to science, an instinct that has played out most visibly in his disdain for efforts to curb global warming but has also permeated federal policy in other ways. Mr. Trump has expressed skepticism about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. His administration supported rolling back safeguards for workers exposed to some toxic substances. And in rolling back nearly 80 environmental regulations, he has regularly played down findings that bolstered the need for the rules in the first place.

The administration’s choice not to curb the use of chlorpyrifos is a case study in how ideological and special-interest considerations outweighed decades of evidence about the potential harm associated with its use.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by laklak » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:52 am

I cant wait for asbestos cigarettes to be legal again.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:20 am

Tero wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:46 pm
Walls do not work, Cunt
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... Lt7jdS1xFI
your example was a single family home. Country walls fail.
Here is a subtle point you will miss. It doesn't matter if you are convinced it won't work. The voters voted for a guy, who ran on a platform which included walls. Now he is doing what his bosses told him to do - get walls built.

Oh, and I think they DO work, but our disagreement on that matter is of little value, since the voters have spoken. (clearly, I would say)
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:22 am

A wall that Mexico would pay for.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:24 am

He also lost by a few million votes.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:35 am

Sean Hayden wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:24 am
He also lost by a few million votes.
Spoken like a true Captain Obvious!

It's as bad a Trump himself harping on and on about how SHE lost by so many millions.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017 ... ite-house/

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:48 am

Trump doesn't consider himself answerable to the entire country--only to those who voted for him, and only to the extent that it strokes his endlessly needy ego. He could have taken the fact that he decisively lost the popular vote as a sign that he should try to govern through consensus, but he simply doesn't have that sort of wisdom in him. Instead he dishonestly claimed that his loss was entirely due to dreamed-up 'voter fraud' perpetrated by millions of illegal residents. Gullible stooges buy into the story and cynical slackwits ignore the facts in favor of a fictional narrative.

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Post by Scot Dutchy » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:01 am

Consensus? That is a word he would not understand. Politically he is a total ignoramus. He is a very spoilt narcissistic manchild.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:05 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:48 am
Trump doesn't consider himself answerable to the entire country--only to those who voted for him, and only to the extent that it strokes his endlessly needy ego.
I wonder if you are displaying 'NeverTrump-NPC' characteristics, or if these are serious, thoughtful criticisms...hmm...
he simply doesn't have that sort of wisdom in him. Instead he dishonestly claimed that his loss was entirely due to dreamed-up 'voter fraud' perpetrated by millions of illegal residents. Gullible stooges buy into the story and cynical slackwits ignore the facts in favor of a fictional narrative.
I sure wouldn't want to be in the 'gullible stooges' group, nor the 'cynical slackwits' group. I guess that means I should just join the 'NeverTrump-NPC' gang, huh?

If you don't like that he has ended wars, moved prison reform forward or improved the hotness of the FLOTUS, watch for his NEXT year of accomplishments. Maybe those would satisfy you!

Of course, if you hate him enough, you will insist that things would be better if he had not ended wars, or reformed prisons.

Heck, you might even want to let illegals in across the southern border, just because he opposes it.
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by pErvinalia » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:07 am


Cunt wrote:
Tero wrote:
Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:46 pm
Walls do not work, Cunt
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... Lt7jdS1xFI
your example was a single family home. Country walls fail.
Here is a subtle point you will miss. It doesn't matter if you are convinced it won't work. The voters voted for a guy, who ran on a platform which included walls. Now he is doing what his bosses told him to do - get walls built.
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He said Mexico would pay for it.

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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:11 am

Ended wars, Cunt? What are you talking about?
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Re: Individual-1, a joke or a threat? (talk Trump)

Post by Cunt » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:14 am

pErvinalia wrote:
Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:11 am
Ended wars, Cunt? What are you talking about?
I just read in the news about the Koreas being joined by rail. Is that due to advances in rail technology? Or something about Trump meeting with the Koreas, and agreeing to stop bombing like crazy around there?

And he decided to stop warring in Syria. I think I remember that one being fairly recent...
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