We need to talk about Donald: cursing and swearing allowed

[Brian Peacock]

[mistermack]

If you go to a public ceremony with the intention to disrupt it and ridicule it, then the state has a right to pass laws to prevent that sort of thing. Otherwise, it's a disrupter's charter.
You either put the country at the mercy of anyone who wants to disrupt and spoil, or you make it an offence.

It sounds like they do have a law against that. I think it's sensible.

In this country, it would be probably dealt with as a breach of the peace.

I would imagine that you could try to argue that it was a spontaneous laugh, out of your own control, and not a deliberate disruption. That would be for a court to decide.

[Brian Peacock]

There's a more straightforward way to deal with disruptive elements...

[Tero]

Bush tried to hide national report card in sock drawer. Kushner, on the other hand, has trouble finding...
http://www.theonion.com/article/kushner ... -sol-56854

[Animavore]

I guess this sort of belongs here because this is one of Trump's favourite news sources, and this is a cursing and swearing thread.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/youre-a ... oung-girl/

[Animavore]

The First White President
The foundation of Donald Trump’s presidency is the negation of Barack Obama’s legacy.

IT IS INSUFFICIENT TO STATE the obvious of Donald Trump: that he is a white man who would not be president were it not for this fact. With one immediate exception, Trump’s predecessors made their way to high office through the passive power of whiteness—that bloody heirloom which cannot ensure mastery of all events but can conjure a tailwind for most of them. Land theft and human plunder cleared the grounds for Trump’s forefathers and barred others from it. Once upon the field, these men became soldiers, statesmen, and scholars; held court in Paris; presided at Princeton; advanced into the Wilderness and then into the White House. Their individual triumphs made this exclusive party seem above America’s founding sins, and it was forgotten that the former was in fact bound to the latter, that all their victories had transpired on cleared grounds. No such elegant detachment can be attributed to Donald Trump—a president who, more than any other, has made the awful inheritance explicit.

His political career began in advocacy of birtherism, that modern recasting of the old American precept that black people are not fit to be citizens of the country they built. But long before birtherism, Trump had made his worldview clear. He fought to keep blacks out of his buildings, according to the U.S. government; called for the death penalty for the eventually exonerated Central Park Five; and railed against “lazy” black employees. “Black guys counting my money! I hate it,” Trump was once quoted as saying. “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” After his cabal of conspiracy theorists forced Barack Obama to present his birth certificate, Trump demanded the president’s college grades (offering $5 million in exchange for them), insisting that Obama was not intelligent enough to have gone to an Ivy League school, and that his acclaimed memoir, Dreams From My Father, had been ghostwritten by a white man, Bill Ayers.

It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true—his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power. Trump inaugurated his campaign by casting himself as the defender of white maidenhood against Mexican “rapists,” only to be later alleged by multiple accusers, and by his own proud words, to be a sexual violator himself. White supremacy has always had a perverse sexual tint. Trump’s rise was shepherded by Steve Bannon, a man who mocks his white male critics as “cucks.” The word, derived from cuckold, is specifically meant to debase by fear and fantasy—the target is so weak that he would submit to the humiliation of having his white wife lie with black men. That the slur cuck casts white men as victims aligns with the dicta of whiteness, which seek to alchemize one’s profligate sins into virtue. So it was with Virginia slaveholders claiming that Britain sought to make slaves of them. So it was with marauding Klansmen organized against alleged rapes and other outrages. So it was with a candidate who called for a foreign power to hack his opponent’s email and who now, as president, is claiming to be the victim of “the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history.”

In Trump, white supremacists see one of their own. Only grudgingly did Trump denounce the Ku Klux Klan and David Duke, one of its former grand wizards—and after the clashes between white supremacists and counterprotesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August, Duke in turn praised Trump’s contentious claim that “both sides” were responsible for the violence.

...

For Trump, it almost seems that the fact of Obama, the fact of a black president, insulted him personally. The insult intensified when Obama and Seth Meyers publicly humiliated him at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner in 2011. But the bloody heirloom ensures the last laugh. Replacing Obama is not enough—Trump has made the negation of Obama’s legacy the foundation of his own. And this too is whiteness. “Race is an idea, not a fact,” the historian Nell Irvin Painter has written, and essential to the construct of a “white race” is the idea of not being a nigger. Before Barack Obama, niggers could be manufactured out of Sister Souljahs, Willie Hortons, and Dusky Sallys. But Donald Trump arrived in the wake of something more potent—an entire nigger presidency with nigger health care, nigger climate accords, and nigger justice reform, all of which could be targeted for destruction or redemption, thus reifying the idea of being white. Trump truly is something new—the first president whose entire political existence hinges on the fact of a black president. And so it will not suffice to say that Trump is a white man like all the others who rose to become president. He must be called by his rightful honorific—America’s first white president.

No punches pulled in this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... es/537909/

[Tero]

Trivial shit

It is well known that almost all of The Don’s products are made overseas. When asked why he doesn’t lead by example and have more of the products from his collection made here, he lied “They don’t even make this stuff here.” It is true that much of the fashion world has its inventory manufactured in other countries, but to say no one makes ties in America? Actually, Brooks Brothers now makes 100% of its retail ties here and 85% of their suits. Don you are a hoax and shamefully un-American.

Let’s wander further down the path of hoaxiosity. Sets of toiletries from Central America, light fixtures from the Czech Republic and Grand headboards from China adorn his properties. He has imported materials, apparel and supplies from more than 15 countries the past 2 years.

On Nov 25th (two weeks after the election) The Don’s Doral Golf Resort imported a 924- pound shipment from Hong Kong, including golf club covers. In Feb 18,000 pounds of logo emblazoned ice buckets came from Thailand. In 2016, he imported 217,000 pounds of Miss Universe brand Chi hair straighteners and hair dryers from Hong Kong.

Trump has been stiffing US workers for years by buying cheap steel from China. Two of the last three construction projects did not get their steel from Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio or Michigan. The steel was purchased through some link to the Luchese and Genovese crime families, who get the steel from overseas. These purchases are done in surreptitious ways, through secondary hidden entities, which makes tracking them difficult.

The Don also didn’t buy Aluminum from Alcoa–a tried and true American brand. Some digging showed that through some back channel bait and switch operation, the Aluminum could be traced back to China.

Let’s go to Ivanka, who follows in her dad’s footsteps. Her entire line is made in China, Bangladesh and Indonesia. The princess of bullshit, who claims her life’s mission is about improving the lives of working women, has a company that lags behind many in the apparel industry when it comes monitoring the treatment of the female workforce around the world. Another hoax.

https://omfgtrumpblog.com/2017/08/12/the-america-hoax/

[Sean Hayden]

-more like infantile

What he meant was that he'd like to bring manufacturing back to the US, not that he'd like to take a loss doing it. Jesus, what's wrong with you lefties?

[Tero]

"They don't even make this stuff here."

They make cheaper stuff in China so that is what he buys.

[Brian Peacock]

I guess this sort of belongs here because this is one of Trump's favourite news sources, and this is a cursing and swearing thread.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/youre-a ... oung-girl/

Infowars reporter Owen Shroyer was shocked when a young girl used vulgar language to question his intelligence.

Well, he was a fucking idiot for starting with "How are you young man?"

[Sean Hayden]

They make cheaper stuff in China so that is what he buys.

He should have known you'd be able to pull one company out of your ass making what he needs here, so long as he's willing to lose money buying it, in order to prove he really doesn't want to bring manufacturing back.

Aren't you just proving his point? We aren't competitive.

[mistermack]

This idea of setting an example yourself is bollocks. There are lots of things that I would vote like to see happen that I wouldn't unilaterally do myself.
I would like to see a near 100% inheritance tax. And I would vote for it, or put it in place, if I was in power.
But I would be an idiot to donate my own inheritance to the tax man, when everyone else is paying very little.

Same with Trump. Why would he put his own companies at a competitive disadvantage to others, who were buying as cheap as the market can supply? That doesn't mean that it's hypocritical to advocate changing the rules.
Some people might go in for gesture buying. Especially if they are politicians used to journalists looking to whip up this sort of story.

Trump's never been that kind of politician. And I don't think he particularly cares if someone makes a story out of it.
At the end of the day, most voters will probably think that they too would buy whatever is the best value on offer.
That's one of the ways that Trump is more like the voters than the career politicians. And it's that kind of attitude, more like the man in the street, that got him elected.

[pErvinalia]

-more like infantile

What he meant was that he'd like to bring manufacturing back to the US, not that he'd like to take a loss doing it. Jesus, what's wrong with you lefties?

What manufacturing jobs is he going to bring back that aren't going to necessitate a loss??

[L'Emmerdeur]

No punches pulled in this article: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... es/537909/

I found the glossing of Trump's 'forefathers' as American 'soldiers, statesmen, and scholars' rather glib: His grandfather was an immigrant merchant, while his mother was herself an immigrant. So I wanted to see if the rest of the article was just as sloppy in regard to facts. In some cases it is, but I agree with its basic premise of continued systematic racism in the US.

[L'Emmerdeur]

What he meant was that he'd like to bring manufacturing back to the US, not that he'd like to take a loss doing it.

I don't think Trump cares about bringing manufacturing back to the US, but he knew that saying that he'd like to do so would gull credulous voters. It's abundantly obvious that all he cares about is gratifying his ego. The 'Buy American, Hire American' mantra that he adopted is completely dishonest, and his actions show that beyond a doubt.

Donald Trump wants to bring jobs back to America — and some foreign workers to fill them.

Trump is looking to hire 78 servers, housekeepers, and cooks for his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach and the nearby Trump National Golf Club in Jupiter, according to Federal labor records.

As he has for years, the Republican presidential nominee filed this month to import foreign workers for the jobs instead of hiring Americans, Buzzfeed News first reported Wednesday.

Department of Labor records show Trump has sought H-2 visas for hundreds of foreigners to fill temporary positions at the two properties in recent years.

The visas are issued through a legal program that allows employers to temporarily hire foreign workers when there are no Americans available to do the work.

But hundreds of U.S. applicants either applied or were referred for the jobs, but only a handful were hired, the New York Times reported in February.

Since 2010, nearly 300 U.S. residents applied or were referred for jobs as waiters, waitresses, cooks and housekeepers there, but only 17 were hired, according to The Times.

Over the same time period, 500 visas for foreign workers were filed at Mar-a-Lago.

[source]