The Syrian Invasion

[JimC]

Rum, sodomy and the lash?

[Warren Dew]

Russia urges Assad to give up chemical weapons:

Russia has asked Syria to put its chemical weapons stockpile under "international control" in a bid to avoid US military strikes, and then have them destroyed.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24022866

It would depend a lot on how Russia envisaged "international control"...

I'm thinking Russian troops in UN helmets.

Apparently even some U.S. intelligence officials think the latest chemical attack had nothing to do with Assad, though. He might be perfectly willing to get the whole chemical weapons issue off his hands.

[pErvinalia]

You seem to have drunk too much of the "exporting democracy" cool-aid. The US, China, Russia etc don't care about foreigners outside of their own interests. The problem for the US is that people see through all the bullshit spin. And all you can say in response to that is "oh please".

News flash -- the Australians and other countries don't care about foreigners outside their own interests either. Other countries are not "better" than the US, China and Russia. They aren't comprised of robed philosophers, making decisions in the best interest of humanity as a whole, to heck with their own self interest. They're humans too and they aren't any different. It's the way humans behave. Of course the US acts in its own interest. All countries do that.

And here it is again. The anti-US butthurt. When are you going to grow up?

If you weren't so ready to get butthurt, you would have noticed the point there. The point there is that Ian presumably believes that the US is genuine in the "exporting democracy" crap. So your whole post (apart from the butthurt) should have been directed to Ian, as you and I agree on this point. But of course, you can't see that, as all you see is your butt getting red and swollen after someone apparently attacked your dear and beloved US. God, you are a fucking broken record.

[Ian]

I believe no such thing. Not really, anyway. Don't put words in my mouth.

[pErvinalia]

Well you didn't clarify what you meant past "oh please", so I'm left to infer what you meant.

[Ian]

My "Oh please" was merely a response to your "because the US keeps bombing the shit out of countries" interpretation of American foreign policy. You deserved no detailed clarification. And you tell us to grow up.

[pErvinalia]

Well if you don't want to explain yourself, then I'll keep inferring your meaning. Simples. Don't whinge about others putting words in your mouth when you couldn't be arsed to put them there yourself.

[Ian]

I'll explain more when I feel like it, which will be when I feel I'm talking to someone capable of speaking on a rational level about foreign affairs, which is damn rare around here. In the meantime, talk to Coito about what Coito said and refrain yourself from making up strawmen with my name on it to help yourself out. I don't think I ever used the "exporting democracy" line any time I ever talked to you.

[pErvinalia]

Perhaps you should review what lead to this point. Tell me then, oh wise one, why it is you think the US is taken to task on its foreign policy. And why you think some of those assessments are wrong.

[Ian]

Do you think I care to respond to snark?

[pErvinalia]

Says the guy who started the snark. Whatever, man. Do what you fucking want.

[Ian]

I started the snark? "What fucking planet are you living on?"
http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 5#p1498095

[JimC]

You both need to drink gin.

A lot of gin...

[pErvinalia]

I started the snark? "What fucking planet are you living on?"
http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 5#p1498095

Ah yes. Sorry.

Anyway, this is ratz. Not fucking choir practice.

[Ian]

God bless Ratz!

Except we don't believe in God.