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Post by maiforpeace » Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:27 pm

floppit wrote:
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floppit wrote:
Picking on Palin supporters isn't indicative of how stupid they are. Most people are ignorant.
yeah yeah but - good god they're thick!
Yeah and 70% of blacks voted for Proposition 8, does that mean it's okay to start making wise cracks about how stupid and backwards they are? This is BS. A big problem with the American political system is that we don't have actual debates, we just pick fights with the bottom of the barrel from the opposing side to justify our own smug notions of superiority. Things like this video piss me off, because they are nothing but ad hominems. I don't like Sarah Palin either, but this video wasn't a fair representation of her supporters (I know quite a few.)

(Note, the example about blacks and prop 8 was a demonstration of the hypocrisy of vilifying stereotyping by race vs stereotyping by political party)
Sorry - I didn't see the video - no soundcard, but I just cannot believe in an intelligent Palin supporter, I don't have a stereotype to work from, it has nothing to do with that and everything to do with her talking total - TOTAL - twaddle!
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Well, perhaps someone is willing to read her book and report back? :dono:

I'm guessing Sarah's book is probably one of the first books many of the buyer's of her book will have purchased in quite a while. So, good on you Sarah for getting your supporters to buy autolieographies instead of Bibles. :hehe:

I'm proud to say I live in a fairly intelligent area.

Bay Area not maverick enough to read Palin book


Steve Rubenstein, Special to The Chronicle

Thursday, November 19, 2009

It might as well have cooties. Hardly anyone wants to touch the thing, or even get close to it.

The new autobiography by moose hunter and failed vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin is harder to find in the Bay Area than a hockey mom. Some bookstores figure it's one of those grit-your-teeth First Amendment deals that principled booksellers must put up with from time to time.

But many nonchain bookstores won't handle it.
"Our customers are thinking people," said Nathan Embretson, a bookseller at Pendragon Books in Oakland. "They're not into reading drivel." :hehe:

There's not a single copy on the shelf. Embretson said no one has asked for it except for one guy, who was kidding.

"He said he wanted to look at it but he also said he didn't really want to read it," Embretson said. "Anyway, he certainly didn't want to buy it. I think he regarded looking at it as a kind of punishment."

There are no copies of the book at Cover to Cover Booksellers in Noe Valley, either.

"Anything like that we wouldn't carry," said clerk Emily Stackhouse. "We're a small store and it would probably gross us all out. Some things you carry because of freedom of speech, but a book like that is just gross."

One customer did put in a special request for the book one evening but, perhaps thinking better in the light of day, failed to show up and actually pay money for it, Stackhouse said.

Sheryl Cotleur, the head buyer for Book Passage, which operates stores in Corte Madera and San Francisco, said the two stores have sold exactly two copies of the book. That works out to one copy per store. Cotleur said two other people have asked to look at the book but no one else has asked to buy it.

"Nobody around here is particularly interested in her politics or her opinions," she said. "There's a certain curiosity, sure. But I don't think that translates into what people are willing to pay money for."

Had she ordered 50 copies of the book, Cotleur said, she would probably wind up shipping 50 copies of the book back to the publisher in a couple of weeks.

"I would expect to take a bath on it," she said. "The job of a book buyer is to be something of a psychic. You have to know your community. I don't want to waste a lot of money and shelf space on a book nobody wants.'

For the record, Palin's book is titled "Going Rogue." It's 432 pages long, sells for $28.99, came out on Tuesday and has few endearing things to say about TV journalists, Democrats or Sen. John McCain's campaign aides, all of whom done her wrong.

The large chains have got modest supplies of the book and, so far, the sales have been equally modest. At Borders bookstore in San Francisco Centre, a Chronicle reporter stood watch over two small stacks of the Palin book near the front doors. In a 25-minute period, only one person bought a copy. He turned out to be a visitor from out of state.

"I'm a conservative and I'm from Montana," said the buyer, Walter Kero, as he waited to plunk down his $17.40. Borders, aware of what it may be up against, has already marked the book 40 percent off.

Kero, an accountant in San Francisco for a convention, said he was heading for the airport and needed something to read on the flight home. "She intrigues me," Kero said. "She has her pluses and minuses. She's a lightning rod. Either you like her or you can't stand her. I like her and I'm not sure she's been given the benefit of the doubt. I'm also not sure she's qualified to be president.'

Clerk Darron Smith, whose job it was to keep the small stack of Palin books in their place on the new bookshelf, next to the Stephen King horror novel and the James Patterson murder mystery, said Borders stocks the book because that's what responsible bookstores do.

"I would never read it myself," he said. "I also would never push it on anyone. But it's here, if somebody wants to ask for it. So far, I haven't had anyone ask."
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Re: Sarah, oh my Sarah!

Post by Hermit » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:44 am

FedUpWithFaith wrote:I don't understand why so many people here live or want to live in Australia. I remember I saw a documentary in the 1980's that showed what a dangerous place that continent is. I recall the Aussie narrator saying that on the roads it's a white-line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice.
Ah yes. I think I saw it too. Was it this one?

Edit: Whoops, just noticed that klr picked up on it.

As for Sarah Palin, she reminds me of a b-grade movie actor who was actually elected president of the USA. Things are looking up a tad just now.
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Post by tattuchu » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:36 pm

Gawdzilla wrote: A good president should at least know Africa is a continent, not a country.
She doesn't know the difference between England and Great Britain either :nono: She's extraordinarily ignorant. I guess that's why ignorant people adore her; she's just like them :dono:

It's a shame, because I'd love to see a woman president :nono: But not that one. God, not that one :shock:

I only know one Sarah Palin supporter IRL, my brother-in-law. He likes her because "she's hot" and because she "likes guns." When I point out to him that she's a complete fucking imbecile, he just repeats that she's hot, as if that should end the discussion :think:
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Post by FBM » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:42 pm

andrewclunn wrote:...A big problem with the American political system is that we don't have actual debates, we just pick fights with the bottom of the barrel from the opposing side to justify our own smug notions of superiority...
This. So this. :tup:

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:46 pm

tattuchu wrote:It's a shame, because I'd love to see a woman president :nono: But not that one. God, not that one :shock:
If you want a female head of state, I believe HM Govt and the Queen herself would look favourably upon a US request to join the Commonwealth....
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Post by klr » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:48 pm

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tattuchu wrote:It's a shame, because I'd love to see a woman president :nono: But not that one. God, not that one :shock:
If you want a female head of state, I believe HM Govt and the Queen herself would look favourably upon a US request to join the Commonwealth....
They'd have to learn how to spell properly first, before you'd let them back in. :dq:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:51 pm

klr wrote:
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tattuchu wrote:It's a shame, because I'd love to see a woman president :nono: But not that one. God, not that one :shock:
If you want a female head of state, I believe HM Govt and the Queen herself would look favourably upon a US request to join the Commonwealth....
They'd have to learn how to spell properly first, before you'd let them back in. :dq:
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Post by klr » Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:54 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
klr wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
tattuchu wrote:It's a shame, because I'd love to see a woman president :nono: But not that one. God, not that one :shock:
If you want a female head of state, I believe HM Govt and the Queen herself would look favourably upon a US request to join the Commonwealth....
They'd have to learn how to spell properly first, before you'd let them back in. :dq:
Indeed so. And rigidly enforce class boundaries, abolish "sausage gravy" and revert to the Gold Standard.
Some more minor adjustments:

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Second Runner Up => Third Place, dammit! :Erasb:
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Post by Chinaski » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:41 am

I hope she runs and pulls a Nader, robbing the mainstream conservative candidate of enough votes to get Obama back in office again.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Nov 26, 2009 12:44 pm

FrigidSymphony wrote:I hope she runs and pulls a Nader, robbing the mainstream conservative candidate of enough votes to get Obama back in office again.
Take careful notes for the next three years. You'll see a smear job in progress that make the Clinton thing look like a grade-school whispering campaign. Rush will be the front man for any slander that pops up, and Pox News will be down in the gutter wallowing in any rumor that comes along, and making up new ones when the native supply grows thin.
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Post by maiforpeace » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:41 pm

Palin Tricked By Comedian Again, Says Canada Should Drop Public Health Care (VIDEO)

At a recent stop on her "Going Rogue" book tour, Sarah Palin told Canadian comedian Mary Walsh that Canada should get rid of its public health care system.
Walsh is the co-creator and star of This Hour Has 22 Minutes -- a nightly news parody show in the same vein as The Daily Show -- and she arrived in character, as the conservative Marg Delahunty, to the Borders where Palin (the "Alaskan Aphrodite") was signing books.
"I just wanted to ask you if you have any words of encouragement for Canadian conservatives who have worked so hard to try to diminish the kind of socialized medicine we have up there." Walsh shouted to Palin as she approached the table.
Palin's handlers tried to help her by ushering Walsh out of the Borders, but Palin could not be deterred. When Palin left the signing, Walsh caught up with her in the parking lot, where Palin suggested that Canada should get rid of its public health care system. "Keep the faith" Palin said, "because common sense conservatism can be plugged in there in Canada too. In fact, Canada needs to reform its health care system and let the private sector take over some of what the government has absorbed."
Raw Story points out that it is unlikely this plan will go over well among Canadians -- even among conservatives.
A recent study found that 90 percent of Canadians support universal, single-payer health care. A poll taken last summer shows 82 percent of Canadians believe their health care system to be better than the US's, despite constant grumbling about waiting times for treatment of non-life-threatening conditions.
This is Palin's second brush with Canadian comedians. Last November a comedian from Montreal convinced the former governor she was speaking with French President Nicolas Sarkozy.
Watch the video below.

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Later, Walsh remarked to the Canadian Press that "It was great fun, but also very strange."
Walsh said, she found it equally bizarre that no one was allowed to ask Palin any questions at the book-signing....
"We're in a bookstore, at a public event, in a place one would think was a bastion of free speech. And no one was allowed to ask questions. What are they afraid of?"
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Re: Sarah, oh my Sarah!

Post by Dory » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:16 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
FrigidSymphony wrote:I hope she runs and pulls a Nader, robbing the mainstream conservative candidate of enough votes to get Obama back in office again.
Take careful notes for the next three years. You'll see a smear job in progress that make the Clinton thing look like a grade-school whispering campaign. Rush will be the front man for any slander that pops up, and Pox News will be down in the gutter wallowing in any rumor that comes along, and making up new ones when the native supply grows thin.
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Re: Sarah, oh my Sarah!

Post by Drewish » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:18 pm

Why smear Obama? There's plenty of true nasty stuff to say about that twit.
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