GAY adopter kills child within weeks.

[Brian Peacock]

Of course, this is why women usually get the kids in divorce cases.
It's our courts imposing their own prejudiced gender stereotypes on others. Do they not realise that women are exactly the same as men? It's only the clothes that are different.

Family courts generally award primary custody rights to the partner who has undertaken the primary care role. Though there is a significant and widely prevalent cultural assumption that women are naturally or inherently better suited to this role children whose primary career is male are no more or less at risk of harm from that parent than from the other - and we all know that the main drivers for this idea that women are naturally or inherently better primary careers are entirely historical, social and economic, rather than there being any fundamental difference in the individual skills, capacities or motives of men and women when it comes to undertaking the primary parenting role.

[mistermack]

Of course, this is why women usually get the kids in divorce cases.
It's our courts imposing their own prejudiced gender stereotypes on others. Do they not realise that women are exactly the same as men? It's only the clothes that are different.

Family courts generally award primary custody rights to the partner who has undertaken the primary care role. Though there is a significant and widely prevalent cultural assumption that women are naturally or inherently better suited to this role children whose primary career is male are no more or less at risk of harm from that parent than from the other - and we all know that the main drivers for this idea that women are naturally or inherently better primary careers are entirely historical, social and economic, rather than there being any fundamental difference in the individual skills, capacities or motives of men and women when it comes to undertaking the primary parenting role.

Have you heard of evolution at all?
That is in fact how we got here.
We weren't designed by the most pc 1% of social workers.
The difference between males and females was important, and having the differences helped the species to survive.

[pErvinalia]

A gay pair were allowed to adopt a little girl in Wales.
One of them murdered her within weeks, despite being passed as fit by "rigorous" vetting by social services.

And the BBC reporting is amazing. If you don't listen carefully, the fact that this was two gay men adopting a baby girl would be missed altogether. There was just one fleeting clue, in that the "husband" of the killer was working away.

So the BBC is now editing out what most people would regard as the most relevant part of the story.
Because it casts doubt on the politically correct assumption that gays will make just as good adoptive parents as anyone else.

It makes a joke of the BBC as a news provider. You are only hearing what THEY want you to hear.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-sout ... s-41889108

What does being gay have to do with the murder?

[Brian Peacock]

Of course, this is why women usually get the kids in divorce cases.
It's our courts imposing their own prejudiced gender stereotypes on others. Do they not realise that women are exactly the same as men? It's only the clothes that are different.

Family courts generally award primary custody rights to the partner who has undertaken the primary care role. Though there is a significant and widely prevalent cultural assumption that women are naturally or inherently better suited to this role children whose primary career is male are no more or less at risk of harm from that parent than from the other - and we all know that the main drivers for this idea that women are naturally or inherently better primary careers are entirely historical, social and economic, rather than there being any fundamental difference in the individual skills, capacities or motives of men and women when it comes to undertaking the primary parenting role.

Have you heard of evolution at all?
That is in fact how we got here.
We weren't designed by the most pc 1% of social workers.
The difference between males and females was important, and having the differences helped the species to survive.

Indeed, but what's that got to do with what I posted? Are you saying that women have evolved skills, capacities and motives which make them naturally or inherently better suited for the primary patenting role? If so, what are these extra skills, capacities and motives that women possess and men don't?

[pErvinalia]

What a despicable story tp post in order to make a homophobic point. You sink lower every time you post you nasty piece of work.

Exactly what you would expect for a social worker.
You people are the problem, not the solution.

No, you conservatives are the problem. People who are instinctively scared of what they don't understand.

Two men should not be adopting babies. It's not natural.

Naturalistic fallacy.

[pErvinalia]

Two, haven't been any stats presented here to suggest that gay parents are more likely to shake or hit their babies than straight parents. Whoever is making that assertion needs to present those stats to back it up

Stupid argument. There are no figures for pitbulls as adoptive parents either.

Sometimes, you need to see the bleeding obvious for what it is.

If there's no data to back up your assertion, how can you assert it is bleeding obvious??

[mistermack]

Indeed, but what's that got to do with what I posted? Are you saying that women have evolved skills, capacities and motives which make them naturally or inherently better suited for the primary patenting role? If so, what are these extra skills, capacities and motives that women possess and men don't?

They can fuckin breast feed for a start.

Apparently, listening to the wallies on this site, I'm in the minority.

But isn't it odd that the vast majority of parents pick girls as babysitters, not 30 year old gay men?
Why one earth could that be, I wonder?

[pErvinalia]

All I'm saying is that there is more violence in gay relationships, this is a verifiable factoid. And so more monitoring in the adoption procedures should apply for gays. Where is the fault in the logic which implies bigotry?

They are calling MM a bigot, not you. You're just a troll.

[pErvinalia]

Of course, this is why women usually get the kids in divorce cases.
It's our courts imposing their own prejudiced gender stereotypes on others. Do they not realise that women are exactly the same as men? It's only the clothes that are different.

Family courts generally award primary custody rights to the partner who has undertaken the primary care role. Though there is a significant and widely prevalent cultural assumption that women are naturally or inherently better suited to this role children whose primary career is male are no more or less at risk of harm from that parent than from the other - and we all know that the main drivers for this idea that women are naturally or inherently better primary careers are entirely historical, social and economic, rather than there being any fundamental difference in the individual skills, capacities or motives of men and women when it comes to undertaking the primary parenting role.

Have you heard of evolution at all?
That is in fact how we got here.
We weren't designed by the most pc 1% of social workers.
The difference between males and females was important, and having the differences helped the species to survive.

More naturalistic fallacy.

[pErvinalia]

Indeed, but what's that got to do with what I posted? Are you saying that women have evolved skills, capacities and motives which make them naturally or inherently better suited for the primary patenting role? If so, what are these extra skills, capacities and motives that women possess and men don't?

They can fuckin breast feed for a start.

Apparently, listening to the wallies on this site, I'm in the minority.

But isn't it odd that the vast majority of parents pick girls as babysitters, not 30 year old gay men?
Why one earth could that be, I wonder?

Because the ratio of females to 30 year old gay men is huge? You really don't have any idea about maths, statistics and science, do you? It's all just conservative instinct the whole way down..

[Brian Peacock]

Indeed, but what's that got to do with what I posted? Are you saying that women have evolved skills, capacities and motives which make them naturally or inherently better suited for the primary patenting role? If so, what are these extra skills, capacities and motives that women possess and men don't?

They can fuckin breast feed for a start.

Apparently, listening to the wallies on this site, I'm in the minority.

But isn't it odd that the vast majority of parents pick girls as babysitters, not 30 year old gay men?
Why one earth could that be, I wonder?

Hmm. I'm only asking you to qualify what you said. Yes, women have breast, but what's that got to do with what you said and what I posted? Come on. Man up and spit it out, or just swallow it back like a thrupenny strumpet.

[mistermack]

You don't read very well.

Gay men are not natural mothers. Being gay might make you sexually attracted to men, but that doesn't make you a woman.

[pErvinalia]

Naturalistic fallacy.

[Brian Peacock]

You don't read very well.

Gay men are not natural mothers. Being gay might make you sexually attracted to men, but that doesn't make you a woman.

Yes, so you keep saying: you think women are naturally better at primary parenting because they're women, and that men are naturally worse, whether they're gay or not, because they're men, not women. That's fine as a statement. It's bollocks, but it's fine. What I'm asking you to explain is exactly what it is that makes women better parents aside from the fact of their gender - what skills, capacities and motives do women possess that men lack when it comes to performing the role of the primary career for their children?

[mistermack]

Men have a lot more testosterone, and women have more oestrogen.