When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri May 06, 2011 11:01 am

Seraph wrote:
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When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?
It's okay, but it's catastrophically stupid.

Plenty of young Arabs will have got rabbit in their blood at the sight.
Meh, they danced in the street on 9/11. Our turn.
Down to their level. Congratulations. :clap:
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Seabass » Fri May 06, 2011 11:05 am

Seraph wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
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When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?
It's okay, but it's catastrophically stupid.

Plenty of young Arabs will have got rabbit in their blood at the sight.
Meh, they danced in the street on 9/11. Our turn.
Down to their level. Congratulations. :clap:
Except that cheering the deaths of 3000 innocent people isn't on the same level as cheering the death of the leader of the terrorist organization that killed those people.
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Magicziggy » Fri May 06, 2011 11:08 am

http://www.theage.com.au/world/bali-bom ... -5ko7.html

I don't recall any gloating in Australia or Indonesia when the Bali bombers were executed.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri May 06, 2011 11:09 am

Seabass wrote:Except that cheering the deaths of 3000 innocent people isn't on the same level as cheering the death of the leader of the terrorist organization that killed those people.
Oh, come on! Moral Calculus demands:

Everything A does = 1
Everything B does = 1
1 = 1
Therefore A is a bad as B.

See? No thinking required, just plug in the numbers, get the generalization out the other end, and move on. :tup:
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri May 06, 2011 11:09 am

Magicziggy wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/world/bali-bom ... -5ko7.html

I don't recall any gloating in Australia or Indonesia when the Bali bombers were executed.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Did you celebrate the end of WWII?
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by charlou » Fri May 06, 2011 11:10 am

Feck wrote:I see hyperboley like calling a 3-0 loss at football a massacre
I was going to make a similar comment, not the analogy, but that the hyperbole bothers me ... and include phrases like "war on terror" .... but then I thought about it ... this isn't some trifling thing we're talking about, terrorism is a huge issue and to think otherwise is trivialising the point. That said, I think people's (understandable) emotional responses are too easily manipulated, even by language, and that's a concern.
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Azathoth » Fri May 06, 2011 11:10 am

Meh, call that a street party? Wait until Thatcher finally carks it. Then you will see some public jubilation
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Feck » Fri May 06, 2011 11:11 am

Azathoth wrote:Meh, call that a street party? Wait until Thatcher finally carks it. Then you will see some public jubilation

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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by charlou » Fri May 06, 2011 11:13 am

Magicziggy wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/world/bali-bom ... -5ko7.html

I don't recall any gloating in Australia or Indonesia when the Bali bombers were executed.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Not on any large public scale, anyway. The media didn't make much of a deal of it, either.
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Hermit » Fri May 06, 2011 11:13 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Seraph wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
devogue wrote:
When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?
It's okay, but it's catastrophically stupid.

Plenty of young Arabs will have got rabbit in their blood at the sight.
Meh, they danced in the street on 9/11. Our turn.
Down to their level. Congratulations. :clap:
Merely being human. I know in the olympian atmosphere of a highly cerebral forum like this that can be lost or overlooked.
What? That we are no different to them? How depressing.

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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Fri May 06, 2011 11:14 am

Rum wrote:Some of the scenes in NY and elsewhere after the news broke reminded me of nothing so much as scenes we see in the so called 'Arab Street' of mobs burning flags or cheering after some victory or other of one of their Jihaddi heroes. Both are equally repugnant.

On the other hand they are both equally understandable.
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by charlou » Fri May 06, 2011 11:17 am

Horwood Beer-Master wrote:
Rum wrote:Some of the scenes in NY and elsewhere after the news broke reminded me of nothing so much as scenes we see in the so called 'Arab Street' of mobs burning flags or cheering after some victory or other of one of their Jihaddi heroes. Both are equally repugnant.

On the other hand they are both equally understandable.
Equally?
If you take into account the completely differing cultural paradigms and all extenuating circumstances, yes.


Understandable =/= agreeable or tolerable.
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by JimC » Fri May 06, 2011 11:18 am

charlou wrote:
Magicziggy wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/world/bali-bom ... -5ko7.html

I don't recall any gloating in Australia or Indonesia when the Bali bombers were executed.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Not on any large public scale, anyway. The media didn't make much of a deal of it, either.
Some family members of victims expressed a rather savage satisfaction, but I would not presume to criticise them...
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by charlou » Fri May 06, 2011 11:19 am

JimC wrote:
charlou wrote:
Magicziggy wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/world/bali-bom ... -5ko7.html

I don't recall any gloating in Australia or Indonesia when the Bali bombers were executed.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Not on any large public scale, anyway. The media didn't make much of a deal of it, either.
Some family members of victims expressed a rather savage satisfaction, but I would not presume to criticise them...
Likewise.


I wouldn't presume to gloat or act in any other way on their behalf, either.
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Re: When a terrorist dies, is it OK to gloat?

Post by Magicziggy » Fri May 06, 2011 11:22 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Magicziggy wrote:http://www.theage.com.au/world/bali-bom ... -5ko7.html

I don't recall any gloating in Australia or Indonesia when the Bali bombers were executed.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Did you celebrate the end of WWII?
The end of a war IS a victory for someone.

Winners can take a moment to gloat. And then get on with building the peace.
The death of one man, no matter how evil, does not mark any victory in this battle as yet.

If "you" refers to Australia, then I'm sure they did.
And when the War on Terror is over, I'll join the party.
What will the end of this war look like though?

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