Health care waiting times

[MrJonno]

Have to admit I was quite suprised by Aviva waiting list times for non-critical surgery, it really was remarkable low. Who in their right mind would want to go private for waiting lists in the 60-90 days range.

In my current job I get private insurance free but if I paid for it would be about £500. And I just wouldnt bother even through I could afford it if it wasnt free

[Clinton Huxley]

Every interaction I've had with the NHS has been entirely admirable. Nothing but good stuff to say about their performance, professionalism and humanity.

Yay for commie-pinko-subversive medicine!

[MrJonno]

Every interaction I've had with the NHS has been entirely admirable. Nothing but good stuff to say about their performance, professionalism and humanity.

Yay for commie-pinko-subversive medicine!

Its the biggest employer in Europe and one of the top 5 or so in the world, you are going to get cockups in any organisation that size but generally it does a good job

[AshtonBlack]

I agree, every interaction I, my close family or my friends have had with the NHS have been spot on.
IMHO the NHS is worth the money we pay in taxes to fund it.

Here's the thing about private care. It is a requirement for it to make profit (for owners/shareholders). So instantly by choosing private someone has to pay that profit.

http://www.globalhealthfacts.org/topic.jsp?i=66

For 1/2 the cost (per capita) we do not have one twice as worse as the US system.

[Clinton Huxley]

I agree, every interaction I, my close family or my friends have had with the NHS have been spot on.
IMHO the NHS is worth the money we pay in taxes to fund it.

Here's the thing about private care. It is a requirement for it to make profit (for owners/shareholders). So instantly by choosing private someone has to pay that profit.

http://www.globalhealthfacts.org/topic.jsp?i=66

For 1/2 the cost (per capita) we do not have one twice as worse as the US system.

You've done it now, AB, there's gonna be a statistics war with CES and Seth.....

[AshtonBlack]

I agree, every interaction I, my close family or my friends have had with the NHS have been spot on.
IMHO the NHS is worth the money we pay in taxes to fund it.

Here's the thing about private care. It is a requirement for it to make profit (for owners/shareholders). So instantly by choosing private someone has to pay that profit.

http://www.globalhealthfacts.org/topic.jsp?i=66

For 1/2 the cost (per capita) we do not have one twice as worse as the US system.

You've done it now, AB, there's gonna be a statistics war with CES and Seth.....

[Feck]

I agree, every interaction I, my close family or my friends have had with the NHS have been spot on.
IMHO the NHS is worth the money we pay in taxes to fund it.

Here's the thing about private care. It is a requirement for it to make profit (for owners/shareholders). So instantly by choosing private someone has to pay that profit.

http://www.globalhealthfacts.org/topic.jsp?i=66

For 1/2 the cost (per capita) we do not have one twice as worse as the US system.

but private health companies are so much more ...profitable

A leading high street bank set up a company to divert millions of pounds of NHS money into an offshore "tax haven", a BBC investigation has found.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-13035648

[maiforpeace]

Overall, 692 surgeons in England sent the BBC information about the policy on hip and knee replacement of their local Primary Care Trust (PCT).

Between them they covered the majority of PCTs in England. In some areas no restrictions were being imposed, but in others the specialists reported delays or new thresholds for surgery.

106 surgeons told the BBC routine operations had been put on hold in their area. Others described new limits on when patients qualify for hip or knee replacements.

152 specialists said patients now have to be more disabled or in greater pain, and 118 told us hip and knee surgery had been regarded as a procedure of low priority.

A number of PCTs have been explicit about their decisions to put all routine operations on hold for several months up to April to help balance their budgets by the end of the financial year. They include Warrington, Sheffield, Eastern and Coastal Kent, Bury and Warwickshire.

Alex Waring, a patient in Warwickshire, was told he was being referred for an urgent knee replacement in August of last year. Now he looks at that letter with bewilderment as more than seven months later he is still waiting for surgery.

Mr Waring has already had one successful knee replacement and says he is in daily pain waiting for this second operation.

"It's excruciating sometimes to put it mildly. And it affects you at the times when you're not expecting it. I get off my mobile scooter and nearly fall over because my knee is gone, the pain, you've to sit there until the pain just goes away."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12964360


This kind of thing has been a big concern to me as the US starts down the road toward a nationalized health care system. In my town, anyone who needs an MRI, for example, can get one within about one week (or less - the main hospital here in my city requires a minimum of 4 days from the date you call in to schedule the MRI, but you can get it in within days usually).

The wait time in the US for knee-replacement surgery in the US is approximately 2 to 4 weeks. Is it really 6 and 7months waiting time in the UK?

Assuming you have health insurance.

What you fail to recognize is that in countries with nationalized health care, you can supplement your free care with additional insurance, so you wouldn't have to wait if you didn't want to.

So, why do so many Americans leave the country for this surgery, if what we have to offer here is so great?

[egbert]

Yesterday I went to the medical clinic for a test. Bastards kept me waiting for HALF AN HOUR! Don't they realize MY TIME IS VALUABLE. I could have been online, proselytizing for Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter, but no, there I was twiddling my thumbs in a Commie medicare clinic! Shades of Castro.
If we had decent health care, like in America, as the Televangelists point out, if I was rich like a Saudi, I could just jump to the front of queue. How I spend my money, even if on bribes, is nobody's business. Just ask Seth! Vote Republican!

[maiforpeace]

Yesterday I went to the medial clinic for a test. Bastards kept me waiting for HALF AN HOUR! Don't they realize MY TIME IS VALUABLE. I could have been online, proselytizing for Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter, but no, there I was twiddling my thumbs in a Commie medicare clinic! Shades of Castro.
If we had decent health care, like in America, as the Televangelists point out, if I was rich like a Saudi, I could just jump to the front of queue. How I spend my money, even if on bribes, is nobody's business. Just ask Seth! Vote Republican!

Believe me, we wait here too...I had to go to one of those Doctors On Duty clinics to get a TB test to volunteer in a nursing home, and was made to wait almost an hour to get a simple skin prick. Same long wait when I returned to get it checked, despite the fact that I arrived 5 minutes before the clinic opened. Additionally, if you miss an appointment and don't call 24 hours beforehand to cancel, many doctors will charge you $25-$50 for a missed appointment fee.

[egbert]

Yesterday I went to the medial clinic for a test. Bastards kept me waiting for HALF AN HOUR! Don't they realize MY TIME IS VALUABLE. I could have been online, proselytizing for Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter, but no, there I was twiddling my thumbs in a Commie medicare clinic! Shades of Castro.
If we had decent health care, like in America, as the Televangelists point out, if I was rich like a Saudi, I could just jump to the front of queue. How I spend my money, even if on bribes, is nobody's business. Just ask Seth! Vote Republican!

Believe me, we wait here too...I had to go to one of those Doctors On Duty clinics to get a TB test to volunteer in a nursing home, and was made to wait almost an hour to get a simple skin prick. Same long wait when I returned to get it checked, despite the fact that I arrived 5 minutes before the clinic opened. Additionally, if you miss an appointment and don't call 24 hours beforehand to cancel, many doctors will charge you $25-$50 for a missed appointment fee.

Uh, I wuz being SARCASTIC!!

[sandinista]

I agree, every interaction I, my close family or my friends have had with the NHS have been spot on.
IMHO the NHS is worth the money we pay in taxes to fund it.

Here's the thing about private care. It is a requirement for it to make profit (for owners/shareholders). So instantly by choosing private someone has to pay that profit.

http://www.globalhealthfacts.org/topic.jsp?i=66

For 1/2 the cost (per capita) we do not have one twice as worse as the US system.

You've done it now, AB, there's gonna be a statistics war with CES and Seth.....

ahhh, they never win those wars anyway.

[MrJonno]

I've had to wait at Mcdonalds sometimes longer than to see an NHS doctor, they are permanately understaffed (the Mcdonalds)

[sandinista]

I've had to wait at Mcdonalds sometimes longer than to see an NHS doctor, they are permanately understaffed (the Mcdonalds)

Eating at mcshit will send you to the waiting room at the NHS!

[Pappa]

I've always found the NHS to be excellent. The only time I've had to wait a long time was when I took my daughter to see a consultant dermatologist. They have this annoying habit of giving everyone a 9am appointment, and you all wait form then to be seen.