Social disorder - what do you think?

[Hermit]

Unionism looked promising at one stage, but now that movement is being poo pooed even by the majority of those who most need it.

I think you are devaluing the power of the union movement.

You misunderstood what I was saying, because I was being too brief. I have been an enthusiastic and appreciative member of the Transport Workers Union for decades, and I fully support this adage: United we bargain, divided we beg. In light of this, please read the relevant bit again, paying particular attention to the underlined words.

I take your point that unionism, for a number of reasons, is not being adopted fully by the most vulnerable to exploitation. Part of the reason is a concerted demonisation of the union movement by sections of the media, something that I suspect you know only too well...

However, my point remains; with all its failings, it remains a vital bulwark against exploitation...

And I agree.

[Trolldor]

Check it out, two old guys fighting.

Made you hard didn't it?

[Meekychuppet]

Check it out, two old guys fighting.

Made you hard didn't it?

You have no idea man...