Those crazy Muslim bastards did it again

[pErvinalia]

Seth will simply brush off all the repudiation by moderate muslims, alleging that they are lying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Same as the Marxist thing. It's the ultimate self-reinforcing conspiracy theory. It the equivalent to believing in God. We can't prove that it doesn't exist, so the feeble minded default to believing in it.

[cronus]

Seth will simply brush off all the repudiation by moderate muslims, alleging that they are lying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Same as the Marxist thing. It's the ultimate self-reinforcing conspiracy theory. It the equivalent to believing in God. We can't prove that it doesn't exist, so the feeble minded default to believing in it.

I don't trust Muslims. And I'm not in the minority here. It is naive to imagine the so called 'moderate Muslims' don't perform some supportive role in the extremes of barbarism to which the religion is prone.

[Tyrannical]

Dutch politician Geert Wilders dropped by the republican convention. Said that the Dutch banned Mein Kampf for promoting hate, they should do the same for the Koran.

Make Islam a hate crime, I like that idea

[Scot Dutchy]

Dutch politician Geert Wilders dropped by the republican convention. Said that the Dutch banned Mein Kampf for promoting hate, they should do the same for the Koran.

Make Islam a hate crime, I like that idea

Mein Kampf is not banned. It has just been re-published for historical purposes. Wilders is as big a fantasist as Trump.

[pErvinalia]

Seth will simply brush off all the repudiation by moderate muslims, alleging that they are lying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Same as the Marxist thing. It's the ultimate self-reinforcing conspiracy theory. It the equivalent to believing in God. We can't prove that it doesn't exist, so the feeble minded default to believing in it.

I don't trust Muslims. And I'm not in the minority here. It is naive to imagine the so called 'moderate Muslims' don't perform some supportive role in the extremes of barbarism to which the religion is prone.

Australia's leading imams have backed a fatwa against the Islamic State terrorist group, warning that any support for the group contradicts Islamic teachings.

In a New Year message to the nation's Muslim community, the Grand Mufti of Australia together with prominent imams from NSW and Victoria have given their religious opinions and urged congregations, particularly the youth, to listen to their religious leaders.
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Dr Mohamed's comments come as Muslim leaders around the world, including 70,000 clerics in India, have issued a fatwa against terrorist groups including ISIS and after the Australian National Imams Consultative Forum released a document, Australian Muslim perspective on some key contemporary concerns, addressing religious issues raised by IS's activities and recruitment.

The document examines dozens of issues from citizenship in Australia and Islam, to jihad, and makes statements backed by more than 20 Australian imams against slavery, suicide, and foreign fighting. It bluntly states that the so-called caliphate in Syria and Iraq, as proclaimed by IS is not legitimate and therefore Australian Muslims have no ­obligation to follow its dictates.

Sheikh Mohamadu Saleem, of the Board of Imams in Victoria, also had a New Year message for the community, saying that violent extremism is neither religious nor Islamic.

"We condemn and deplore ISIS's violent propaganda that is perpetrated against innocent civilians in the name of Islam as the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: 'Harm is neither inflicted nor tolerated in Islam.'"

He said that "ISIS is trying to justify 'violence against innocent civilians' by interpreting texts of the Koran and hadiths, statements of Muhammad 'cherry-picked and out of context' to suit their violent actions. Majority of the leading scholars and Islamic organisations have vehemently denounced ISIS for its illegitimate and misleading propaganda."

Sheikh Yahya Safi, the imam at Australia's biggest mosque in Lakemba, said: "I stand with the Islamic scholars from around the world who have condemned the actions of ISIS that contradict the teachings of Islam and I have stressed this on many occasions, especially in my Friday sermons."

Sheik Taj el-Din al-Hilali, the former grand mufti of Australia, has also warned that IS is like a trap that had tricked people and countries.

"Joining them is a type of madness that does not concord with the teachings of any religion. I warn the Muslim youths from all over the world against joining ISIS or supporting them in any way," Sheikh Hilali said.

"Joining such a group or supporting it contradicts the Islamic teachings 100 per cent, because this group is clear in breach of the Islamic teachings."

http://www.smh.com.au/national/muslim-l ... lxtbp.html

[cronus]

Seth will simply brush off all the repudiation by moderate muslims, alleging that they are lying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Same as the Marxist thing. It's the ultimate self-reinforcing conspiracy theory. It the equivalent to believing in God. We can't prove that it doesn't exist, so the feeble minded default to believing in it.

I don't trust Muslims. And I'm not in the minority here. It is naive to imagine the so called 'moderate Muslims' don't perform some supportive role in the extremes of barbarism to which the religion is prone.

Australia's leading imams have backed a fatwa against the Islamic State terrorist group, warning that any support for the group contradicts Islamic teachings.

In a New Year message to the nation's Muslim community, the Grand Mufti of Australia together with prominent imams from NSW and Victoria have given their religious opinions and urged congregations, particularly the youth, to listen to their religious leaders.
.....
Dr Mohamed's comments come as Muslim leaders around the world, including 70,000 clerics in India, have issued a fatwa against terrorist groups including ISIS and after the Australian National Imams Consultative Forum released a document, Australian Muslim perspective on some key contemporary concerns, addressing religious issues raised by IS's activities and recruitment.

The document examines dozens of issues from citizenship in Australia and Islam, to jihad, and makes statements backed by more than 20 Australian imams against slavery, suicide, and foreign fighting. It bluntly states that the so-called caliphate in Syria and Iraq, as proclaimed by IS is not legitimate and therefore Australian Muslims have no ­obligation to follow its dictates.

Sheikh Mohamadu Saleem, of the Board of Imams in Victoria, also had a New Year message for the community, saying that violent extremism is neither religious nor Islamic.

"We condemn and deplore ISIS's violent propaganda that is perpetrated against innocent civilians in the name of Islam as the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: 'Harm is neither inflicted nor tolerated in Islam.'"

He said that "ISIS is trying to justify 'violence against innocent civilians' by interpreting texts of the Koran and hadiths, statements of Muhammad 'cherry-picked and out of context' to suit their violent actions. Majority of the leading scholars and Islamic organisations have vehemently denounced ISIS for its illegitimate and misleading propaganda."

Sheikh Yahya Safi, the imam at Australia's biggest mosque in Lakemba, said: "I stand with the Islamic scholars from around the world who have condemned the actions of ISIS that contradict the teachings of Islam and I have stressed this on many occasions, especially in my Friday sermons."

Sheik Taj el-Din al-Hilali, the former grand mufti of Australia, has also warned that IS is like a trap that had tricked people and countries.

"Joining them is a type of madness that does not concord with the teachings of any religion. I warn the Muslim youths from all over the world against joining ISIS or supporting them in any way," Sheikh Hilali said.

"Joining such a group or supporting it contradicts the Islamic teachings 100 per cent, because this group is clear in breach of the Islamic teachings."

http://www.smh.com.au/national/muslim-l ... lxtbp.html

Al-taqiyya and reverse logic. What could go wrong with this level of condemnation by so many Muslim leaders?

[pErvinalia]

Al-taqiyya is the conspiracy theory, right? This is going in circles..

[Hermit]

Seth will simply brush off all the repudiation by moderate muslims, alleging that they are lying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Crumple beat him to it this time, though that is Seth's modus operandi too. Don't know why they keep demanding that Muslims repudiate terrorism when 1. Muslims keep doing that and are ignored by those who only hear what they want to hear and 2. when such repudiation is rubbed into their faces, their only response it to call them liars.

[cronus]

Seth will simply brush off all the repudiation by moderate muslims, alleging that they are lying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Crumple beat him to it this time, though that is Seth's modus operandi too. Don't know why they keep demanding that Muslims repudiate terrorism when 1. Muslims keep doing that and are ignored by those who only hear what they want to hear and 2. when such repudiation is rubbed into their faces, their only response it to call them liars.

I'll hear what you are saying after the big terror attacks stop being monthly, and become a historic relic of a barbaric era.

[pErvinalia]

Like London in the 80's?

[Meekychuppet]

I repeat, what do you want to do to muslims living in western countries?

Send them to re-education camps?

I don't want to do anything with them.

Nothing I can say in this forum lol

But I suppose the rule friendly idea would be to create an environment where they decide to self deport, I mean immigrate else where.
Islam could be classified as a hate crime. Then social services could take their children away AND charge them child support.
Or implement a form of sharia law for muslims. Drug use? Long jail and lashes. Shop lifting? Off with the hand! Welfare fraud? Chop chop! Rape? Honour killing time! The possibilities are endless.

I wouldn't even entertain profiling, segregation etc. All I want is for our government to admit that there's a problem. We can work things out from there. I'm also resentful of the wilful and deliberate conflating of "Islam" and "Muslims" which has taken place throughout this thread.

Well, since "Muslims" are members of "Islam" it's unavoidable, don't you see, so your resentfulness is irrational.

Seth called me irrational. The world is a strange place suddenly.

[pErvinalia]

A broken clock is right twice a day...

[rainbow]

Seth will simply brush off all the repudiation by moderate muslims, alleging that they are lying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Same as the Marxist thing. It's the ultimate self-reinforcing conspiracy theory. It the equivalent to believing in God. We can't prove that it doesn't exist, so the feeble minded default to believing in it.

I don't trust Muslims.

I don't trust people who don't trust Muslims.

[NineBerry]

I don't people trusts.

[cronus]

Seth will simply brush off all the repudiation by moderate muslims, alleging that they are lying to lull us into a false sense of security...

Same as the Marxist thing. It's the ultimate self-reinforcing conspiracy theory. It the equivalent to believing in God. We can't prove that it doesn't exist, so the feeble minded default to believing in it.

I don't trust Muslims.

I don't trust people who don't trust Muslims.

You'll trust me. I'm different, don't trust any religion that endorses slavery. Christianity and America is on my shit list too.