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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:38 am

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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by Svartalf » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:52 am

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piscator wrote:Well, the thing is, the more Muslim a person is, the more likely he or she is to want to be an enemy of The Greater and Lesser Satans of the world.
That is a rather peculiar way to put it. Perhaps if you were to say "the more that a muslim's religious beliefs tend towards fundamentalism" you might be more accurate...
There is a problem with both formulations: While the Qur'an is the central text for all Muslims, the Islamic religion is not at all monolithic. Interpretations of what the holy scripture actually means, and therefore what its adherents ought to do (or not do) vary widely between and within denominations. At one end of the spectrum there are the Jihadists we have become so aware of since the Taliban became a fighting force. On the other end is Sufism. Sufists focus on the mystical, spiritual, otherworldly aspect of Islam. They are numerous - I would say, though I don't have any statistics to back this up - probably the majority, and spread across all Islamic sects, but we don't hear much about them because they don't blow themselves or others up. Whatever, they all claim to be fundamental Muslims. So, basically, saying "the more Muslim a person is, the more likely he or she is to want to be an enemy of The Greater and Lesser Satans of the world" is not just inaccurate - it is outright wrong. Same goes for Jim's attempt to improve on that statement with "the more that a muslim's religious beliefs tend towards fundamentalism".

ETA: Also: What Brian Peacock said.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by laklak » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:37 am

The hypocritical bastards are still pouring it down their necks the minute they get to Bahrain, though.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by DaveDodo007 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:11 am

Rum wrote:Congratulations on finding a racist masquerading as a scientist to reinforce your ignorant prejudices. The guy you are quoting spends a good deal of his time finding 'evidence' to point out the differences between the races. Odd how the white races always come top of his league. Though he has a grudging admiration for Asians I will grant you.
While I can't find anything on questia.com on the surveypolice site so I can't comment the methods that were used in this survey. Though I will note that asians do tend to have an higher IQ in most studies I have come across.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by DaveDodo007 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:17 am

laklak wrote:The hypocritical bastards are still pouring it down their necks the minute they get to Bahrain, though.
It is amazing how many of my fellow Turks will drink like fish when invited to my villa but will not touch the stuff when out in the open. :smoke:
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:31 am

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Rum wrote:Congratulations on finding a racist masquerading as a scientist to reinforce your ignorant prejudices. The guy you are quoting spends a good deal of his time finding 'evidence' to point out the differences between the races. Odd how the white races always come top of his league. Though he has a grudging admiration for Asians I will grant you.
While I can't find anything on questia.com on the surveypolice site so I can't comment the methods that were used in this survey. Though I will note that asians do tend to have an higher IQ in most studies I have come across.
IQ isn't a good measure of innate intelligence. Much hinges on education levels.

And furthermore, what exactly is "intelligence" and do IQ test measure that?
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

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laklak wrote:The hypocritical bastards are still pouring it down their necks the minute they get to Bahrain, though.
It is amazing how many of my fellow Turks will drink like fish when invited to my villa but will not touch the stuff when out in the open. :smoke:
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:20 am

Nit pickery? Pick knittery more like.

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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:26 am

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laklak wrote:The hypocritical bastards are still pouring it down their necks the minute they get to Bahrain, though.
It is amazing how many of my fellow Turks will drink like fish when invited to my villa but will not touch the stuff when out in the open. :smoke:
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by Feck » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:23 pm

And furthermore, what exactly is "intelligence" and do IQ test measure that?
http://psychology.about.com/od/cognitiv ... igence.htm
IQ tests Measure 'cognitive abilities' but most are based on Problem solving in areas that can be most easily scored numerically and applied to basic school curriculum and general employment . When applied to those things most modern IQ tests do seem to be useful BUT they do seem to be a test of skills and many of those Skills can be learnt or practiced so the idea of the IQ test as a universal test of a persons absolute mental capacity or ability is flawed .
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:18 am

yeah.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:53 am

Feck wrote:
And furthermore, what exactly is "intelligence" and do IQ test measure that?
http://psychology.about.com/od/cognitiv ... igence.htm
IQ tests Measure 'cognitive abilities' but most are based on Problem solving in areas that can be most easily scored numerically and applied to basic school curriculum and general employment . When applied to those things most modern IQ tests do seem to be useful BUT they do seem to be a test of skills and many of those Skills can be learnt or practiced so the idea of the IQ test as a universal test of a persons absolute mental capacity or ability is flawed .
Practicing sort of invalidates the results, and you get a much higher approximation of true IQ when its not practiced. Sort of how a bar exam measures your ability to be a "good" :{D lawyer, and you'd expect the lawyer to pass on his first attempt to be better than a lawyer that took a dozen attempts.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:16 am

Wot? :think:
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by Hermit » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:34 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:Wot? :think:
Tranny just agreed with Feck. I don't think he noticed, though. Using different words, both said that IQ test results are largely due to conditioning rather than genetics.
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Re: Donald Trump warns of the Muslim Problem

Post by pErvinalia » Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:03 pm

I dont get his first sentence.

Edit: actually I do now. Yeah, he's agreeing with me and feck.
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