Ban Ronald McDonald?

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Should Ronald McDonald be banned?

Yes, ban him.
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No, don't ban him.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:52 pm

Seraph wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Seraph wrote:Joy

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What message do you think that picture conveys?

What do you think it's saying?
Joy!

Can't you read a message as short as a single word consisting of just three letters, let alone work out what to make of it?
I figured you were posting that as some sort of a bait or troll tactic. I'll try not to feed the trolls.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by RuleBritannia » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:15 pm

Well the girl in the middle is Phan Thị Kim Phúc, she's from a famous picture taken during the Vietnam War just after a napalm attack:
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I fail to see what the connection is with Mickey Mouse and Ronald McDonald? Looks like propaganda to me.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Hermit » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:43 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:Well the girl in the middle is Phan Thị Kim Phúc, she's from a famous picture taken during the Vietnam War just after a napalm attack:
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I fail to see what the connection is with Mickey Mouse and Ronald McDonald? Looks like propaganda to me.
It is. Duh.

The picture I linked to shows how big corporations lead children to happiness and joy - even the most miserable ones, like the one depicted, who is in extreme physical pain, having had her clothes burnt off her body by napalm, and who is totally traumatised . The smoke in the background obscures the total destruction of her entire life; her village, her home and possibly some or many of her family, friends and community.

It's an extremely hyperbolised illustration of what corporations like Disney and MacDonald say they are doing. Make of it what you want.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by kiki5711 » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:49 pm

Feck wrote:They should just make the doors to all fast food places really narrow ....
:hehe: That wouldn't stop them :food: :food:

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by RuleBritannia » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:53 pm

Seraph wrote:It is. Duh.

The picture I linked to shows how big corporations lead children to happiness and joy - even the most miserable ones, like the one depicted, who is in extreme physical pain, having had her clothes burnt off her body by napalm, and who is totally traumatised . The smoke in the background obscures the total destruction of her entire life; her village, her home and possibly some or many of her family, friends and community.

It's an extremely hyperbolised illustration of what corporations like Disney and MacDonald say they are doing. Make of it what you want.
It's a piece of art by Banksy, a well known anti-capitalist and pacifist, there's only one message and the message is obvious.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Ian » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:57 pm

Eleven pages on Ronald McDonald??? :fp:

I have only one thing to say to this entire thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Kristie » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:59 pm

Ian wrote:Eleven pages on Ronald McDonald??? :fp:

I have only one thing to say to this entire thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Hermit » Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:59 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
Seraph wrote:It is. Duh.

The picture I linked to shows how big corporations lead children to happiness and joy - even the most miserable ones, like the one depicted, who is in extreme physical pain, having had her clothes burnt off her body by napalm, and who is totally traumatised . The smoke in the background obscures the total destruction of her entire life; her village, her home and possibly some or many of her family, friends and community.

It's an extremely hyperbolised illustration of what corporations like Disney and MacDonald say they are doing. Make of it what you want.
It's a piece of art by Banksy, a well known anti-capitalist and pacifist, there's only one message and the message is obvious.
O dear! Who would have thunk it?

...AND a pacifist you say? I am shocked. The sheer gall...
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Post by Trolldor » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:01 pm

FIO wrote:
Ian wrote:Eleven pages on Ronald McDonald??? :fp:

I have only one thing to say to this entire thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
:nono:
:funny:
That corporations are money-grubbing whores?
This video contains content from Vevo, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by RuleBritannia » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:07 pm

Seraph wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
Seraph wrote:It is. Duh.

The picture I linked to shows how big corporations lead children to happiness and joy - even the most miserable ones, like the one depicted, who is in extreme physical pain, having had her clothes burnt off her body by napalm, and who is totally traumatised . The smoke in the background obscures the total destruction of her entire life; her village, her home and possibly some or many of her family, friends and community.

It's an extremely hyperbolised illustration of what corporations like Disney and MacDonald say they are doing. Make of it what you want.
It's a piece of art by Banksy, a well known anti-capitalist and pacifist, there's only one message and the message is obvious.
O dear! Who would have thunk it?

...AND a pacifist you say? I am shocked. The sheer gall...
I'd love to be a pacifist, I'd give peace a chance, but unfortunately while Taliban are running around chopping peoples heads off, I have no choice but to be their enemy.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by leo-rcc » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:13 pm

I'm only a pacifist when I'm the one being shot at.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:19 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
Seraph wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
Seraph wrote:It is. Duh.

The picture I linked to shows how big corporations lead children to happiness and joy - even the most miserable ones, like the one depicted, who is in extreme physical pain, having had her clothes burnt off her body by napalm, and who is totally traumatised . The smoke in the background obscures the total destruction of her entire life; her village, her home and possibly some or many of her family, friends and community.

It's an extremely hyperbolised illustration of what corporations like Disney and MacDonald say they are doing. Make of it what you want.
It's a piece of art by Banksy, a well known anti-capitalist and pacifist, there's only one message and the message is obvious.
O dear! Who would have thunk it?

...AND a pacifist you say? I am shocked. The sheer gall...
I'd love to be a pacifist, I'd give peace a chance, but unfortunately while Taliban are running around chopping peoples heads off, I have no choice but to be their enemy.

"The majority of pacifists either belong to obscure religious sects or are simply humanitarians who object to taking life and prefer not to follow their thoughts beyond that point. But there is a minority of intellectual pacifists, whose real though unacknowledged motive appears to be hatred of western democracy and admiration for totalitarianism. Pacifist propaganda usually boils down to saying that one side is as bad as the other, but if one looks closely at the writing of the younger intellectual pacifists, one finds that they do not by any means express impartial disapproval but are directed almost entirely against Britain and the United States..."

George Orwell, Notes on Nationalism, May 1945.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Hermit » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:20 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:I'd love to be a pacifist, I'd give peace a chance, but unfortunately while Taliban are running around chopping peoples heads off, I have no choice but to be their enemy.
What I was alluding to is my bewilderment about bringing up Banksy's pacifism in relation to a discussion of MacDonald's clown device. Sure, everything is connected with everything, but can't we make some (albeit arbitrary) decision to limit discussions to just a segment of the universal spectrum? Perhaps you and CES would like to start a thread on pacifism, yes?
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by RuleBritannia » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:26 pm

Seraph wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:I'd love to be a pacifist, I'd give peace a chance, but unfortunately while Taliban are running around chopping peoples heads off, I have no choice but to be their enemy.
What I was alluding to is my bewilderment about bringing up Banksy's pacifism in relation to a discussion of MacDonald's clown device. Sure, everything is connected with everything, but can't we make some (albeit arbitrary) decision to limit discussions to just a segment of the universal spectrum? Perhaps you and CES would like to start a thread on pacifism, yes?
I brought up pacifism because the image of little girl is from the Vietnam War and Banksy is a known pacifist, I didn't bring the image of war up, you did. The piece of art is obviously connecting war with capitalism, it has nothing to do with obesity, which is what this thread is about.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:29 pm

Seraph wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:I'd love to be a pacifist, I'd give peace a chance, but unfortunately while Taliban are running around chopping peoples heads off, I have no choice but to be their enemy.
What I was alluding to is my bewilderment about bringing up Banksy's pacifism in relation to a discussion of MacDonald's clown device. Sure, everything is connected with everything, but can't we make some (albeit arbitrary) decision to limit discussions to just a segment of the universal spectrum? Perhaps you and CES would like to start a thread on pacifism, yes?
All RuledBrit did is explain who drew the picture and what his background/politics were. You're the one who made pacifism, specifically, an issue when you sarcastically replied "...AND a pacifist you say? I am shocked. The sheer gall." The Orwell quote explains why an artist's status as a "pacifist" might be relevant to an interpretation of his work.

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