We need to talk about Donald – the Nightmare continues

[Svartalf]

"President Cuck". Trump fans outraged that Trump called Islam one of the "great faiths".

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/hes-bee ... at-faiths/

I wonder if some of them will finally wake up to the fact that he is totally full of shit.

No, but some may start plotting to murder him as a blasphemer...

[pErvinalia]

[Brian Peacock]

If you want to know what the anti-cuckist are pushing you could do worse than read Truthfeed on the matter (of course, you could do a lot better as well. Easily in fact).

[JimC]

Then, of course, there are the anti-cockists.

Mostly lesbians, I gather...

[Tero]

Trump can be linked to fraud and racketeering
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayrock_Group
http://www.salon.com/2017/05/21/watch-d ... ssian-mob/

[Animavore]

If you want to know what the anti-cuckist are pushing you could do worse than read Truthfeed on the matter (of course, you could do a lot better as well. Easily in fact).

It has "truth" in the title so you know it's true.

[Animavore]

[Svartalf]

"Pecunia non olet", as said Emperor Vespasian.

[Brian Peacock]

Et Domino mundi sic tuesdi.

[Forty Two]

do such petition have any power, or are they just glorified opinion polls?

Dunno. Theoretically, I suppose, it's meant to pressure Congress to act.

What's the high crime or misdemeanor of office?

I mean, o.k., they managed to get a special prosecutor, even though nobody has pointed to any probable cause that a crime was committed. That said, let's see if he finds anything.

Right now, there isn't evidence of anything. There is just Trump's "associates" doing nothing unethical or illegal, but being accused of possibly doing something unethical or illegal because some people communicated with some Russians but nobody has publicized what they talked about or why, and it's not unusual or improper to have communications with Russians.

[Forty Two]

[Brian Peacock]

do such petition have any power, or are they just glorified opinion polls?

Dunno. Theoretically, I suppose, it's meant to pressure Congress to act.

What's the high crime or misdemeanor of office?

I mean, o.k., they managed to get a special prosecutor, even though nobody has pointed to any probable cause that a crime was committed. That said, let's see if he finds anything.

That's not how investigations work. One doesn't say, "There's no proof we done a crime so you don't need to investigate whether we done one or not," though it didn't stop Sean Spicer did it? The investigations into the Trump campaign's ties with a foreign power have been underway and ongoing since well before the election on the basis of 'credible evidence' of collusion between certain aides and officials of the campaign and the euphemistically referred to 'Russian operatives.' The FBI and CIA chiefs have already publicly testified to that. The Trumpeteers have done everything they can to stymie and block those investigations, including lying about secret meetings, spreading falsehoods and passing misinformation to the media, branding reporting on the matter as FAKE NEWS (not to mention calling adverse media reports the produce of 'Enemies of the people'), spinning that the investigations are a Democrat revenge for losing the election even though they pre-date the investigation, and attempting to undermine and sway the deliberations of the House Intelligence Committee.

People lie because they are fearful of the consequences of the truth - and 'the truth will out' as they say. You still don't get that all US voters deserve the truth regardless of their political leanings and getting to the bottom of this, one way or another, is something everyone should be aiming to achieve - even the President.

[Forty Two]

do such petition have any power, or are they just glorified opinion polls?

Dunno. Theoretically, I suppose, it's meant to pressure Congress to act.

What's the high crime or misdemeanor of office?

I mean, o.k., they managed to get a special prosecutor, even though nobody has pointed to any probable cause that a crime was committed. That said, let's see if he finds anything.

That's not how investigations work. One doesn't say, "There's no proof we done a crime so you don't need to investigate whether we done one or not," though it didn't stop Sean Spicer did it?

Generally, there has to be some probable cause to believe a crime has been committed before there is a criminal investigation. Bare allegations generally are insufficient.

However, investigate away -- the fact remains that as of now, there is no such evidence or proof, is there? It's not as if there hasn't been an investigation. We've had the FBI toiling away, and various intelligence services, and they've come up with something between zip and nada.

The investigations into the Trump campaign's ties with a foreign power have been underway and ongoing since well before the election on the basis of 'credible evidence' of collusion between certain aides and officials of the campaign and the euphemistically referred to 'Russian operatives.'

Nonsense. “On the question of the Trump campaign conspiring with the Russians here, there is smoke, but there is no fire at all,” he said, adding, “There’s no little campfire, there’s no little candle, there’s no spark. And there’s a lot of people looking for it.” - Michael Morrell, frmr acting CIA Chief under Barack Obama. Dianne Feinstein and Maxine Waters have clearly stated that there is no evidence yet found of collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russians. As of May 6, 2017, Wolf Blitzer asked Feinstein for evidence that there was in fact collusion between Trump associates and Russia during the campaign and she flat out answered that there was none at this time. That's two weeks ago. Similarly, on May 9, Jonathan Capehart asked Maxine Waters if she knew of any evidence of collusion, and she said "none."

There is no "credible evidence" of collusion. Is there? If there is, share it with Senator Feinstein, if you would. She apparently doesn't have the access you do. You might copy Wolf Blitzer and CNN too, because they didn't have the information to give to Senator Feinstein.

The FBI and CIA chiefs have already publicly testified to that.

They did? When? James Clapper - CIA Chief - said exactly the opposite. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/james ... le/2622452 No evidence of any collusion.

The Trumpeteers have done everything they can to stymie and block those investigations, including lying about secret meetings,

Citation needed

spreading falsehoods and passing misinformation to the media,

From unnamed sources? Citations needed.

branding reporting on the matter as FAKE NEWS (not to mention calling adverse media reports the produce of 'Enemies of the people'),

A lot of that going around - that kind of political spinning is on both sides. If there was no collusion, then it is fake news. Democrats have been accusing Republicans of treason.

[tattuchu]

[Forty Two]

The secret is out. Melania doesn't like her husband either!