All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Mon May 06, 2019 3:26 am

laklak wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:33 am
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Troll-in-Chief...
Didn't y'all already know that? That's the whole point of the exercise, to piss off everybody. The optics are delicious. The Dems are petulant children with their "Russia! Russia!" stuff, as petulant and childlike as the Obama Birthers and BENGHAZI! The Trumpanzees look like brain-dead cultists. Centrist GOP and Dems are bewildered cattle on the way to the abattoir, they don't have a clue what's going on and aren't likely to figure it out in time. All our sad little self-deceptions and public posturings we've depended on are stripped away and we're seeing ourselves as we really are. Ain't pretty, but I fucking love it. It's more fun than watching two old duffers at the nursing home fighting over a set of false teeth. It's exactly what we needed after 16 stultifying years of The Shrub-n-Barry Show. We need to shake shit up, like Fremen Jihad.
H.L. Mencken predicted Trump's presidency almost 100 years ago, and he expressed it much better.
The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by laklak » Mon May 06, 2019 3:36 am

I can only aspire to H.L.'s brutal command of the language.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Hermit » Mon May 06, 2019 4:08 am

laklak wrote:
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I can only aspire to H.L.'s brutal command of the language.
There is nothing brutal about Mencken's command of the language. And while his views regarding democracy remain succinct to this day, he has not managed to suggest a better form of government. This is not at all surprising because, in the words of Winston Churchill "democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time".
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by pErvinalia » Mon May 06, 2019 4:59 am

laklak wrote:
JimC wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 9:02 pm
Troll-in-Chief...
Didn't y'all already know that? That's the whole point of the exercise, to piss off everybody. The optics are delicious. The Dems are petulant children with their "Russia! Russia!" stuff, as petulant and childlike as the Obama Birthers and BENGHAZI! The Trumpanzees look like brain-dead cultists. Centrist GOP and Dems are bewildered cattle on the way to the abattoir, they don't have a clue what's going on and aren't likely to figure it out in time. All our sad little self-deceptions and public posturings we've depended on are stripped away and we're seeing ourselves as we really are. Ain't pretty, but I fucking love it. It's more fun than watching two old duffers at the nursing home fighting over a set of false teeth. It's exactly what we needed after 16 stultifying years of The Shrub-n-Barry Show. We need to shake shit up, like Fremen Jihad.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Mon May 06, 2019 12:04 pm

Trump’s Other Impeachable Offense - As Nixon learned, Congress will not abide a president who defies its subpoenas.
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The republican half sure as hell will. They have their base brainwashed by Fox News and will fall in line behind dear leader. The Republican Party is rotten to its core and their dumb ass followers treat it like a win at all cost team sport. Many republicans I talk to know nothing about actual policy and only spout right wing talking points. In their eyes it’s “fake news”and they’d gladly suck trumps balls for not only another term but would probably be ok with Trump suspending elections and claiming a dictatorship because that means no dems in charge. It’s to that point. That 35%you always see in favor of trump or his policies is never leaving. It will always be someone else fault to them. Trump does nothing wrong. I guarantee if they start polling if they would be ok with trump being allowed a 3rd term you’ll see that 35% in the yes column.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by laklak » Mon May 06, 2019 2:14 pm

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...Mmmm libertarianism..
Please God.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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Post by Tero » Mon May 06, 2019 2:17 pm

Trump lies about Puerto Rico. Again.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Animavore » Mon May 06, 2019 4:44 pm

US agriculture hit with a double whammy of climate change and an idiot in charge.

The issue is not simply the unpredictability of weather. Instead, fund managers say, they are struggling to model how extreme weather events from droughts to more powerful storms will affect commodity prices and, in turn, spending by farmers on equipment or seeds.

In November, the U.S. government published a report that found climate change will boost costs in industries including farming and energy production by increasing the frequency and severity of storms. The U.S.-China trade war has also clouded the outlook for U.S. farmers.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... rRYXt3fBNg


And yet many of this idiots will still deny the former and support the latter.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Mon May 06, 2019 8:22 pm

Bam!
Trump would have been charged with obstruction were he not president, hundreds of former federal prosecutors assert
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html

More than 370 former federal prosecutors who worked in Republican and Democratic administrations have signed on to a statement asserting special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s findings would have produced obstruction charges against President Trump — if not for the office he held.

The statement — signed by myriad former career government employees as well as high-profile political appointees — offers a rebuttal to Attorney General William P. Barr’s determination that the evidence Mueller uncovered was “not sufficient” to establish that Trump committed a crime.

Mueller had declined to say one way or the other whether Trump should have been charged, citing a Justice Department legal opinion that sitting presidents cannot be indicted, as well as concerns about the fairness of accusing someone for whom there can be no court proceeding.

“Each of us believes that the conduct of President Trump described in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report would, in the case of any other person not covered by the Office of Legal Counsel policy against indicting a sitting President, result in multiple felony charges for obstruction of justice,” the former federal prosecutors wrote.

“We emphasize that these are not matters of close professional judgment,” they added. “Of course, there are potential defenses or arguments that could be raised in response to an indictment of the nature we describe here. . . . But, to look at these facts and say that a prosecutor could not probably sustain a conviction for obstruction of justice — the standard set out in Principles of Federal Prosecution — runs counter to logic and our experience.”


The statement is notable for the number of people who signed it — 375 as of Monday afternoon — and the positions and political affiliations of some on the list. It was posted online Monday afternoon; those signing it did not explicitly address what, if anything, they hope might happen next.

more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/na ... story.html
Statement is here: https://medium.com/@dojalumni/statement ... b7691c2aa1
Looks like it's up to 439 now...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Mon May 06, 2019 9:29 pm

Trump causing deficit, if he wants to take credit for economy:
The reason? A strong American economy encourages consumers to spend rather than save, sparking demand for imported goods and services. Economists say the growing U.S. economy -- which Mr. Trump likes to take credit for -- is leading to higher trade deficits with China.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Seabass » Mon May 06, 2019 9:46 pm

laklak wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 2:33 am
JimC wrote:
Sun May 05, 2019 9:02 pm
Troll-in-Chief...
Didn't y'all already know that? That's the whole point of the exercise, to piss off everybody. The optics are delicious. The Dems are petulant children with their "Russia! Russia!" stuff, as petulant and childlike as the Obama Birthers and BENGHAZI! The Trumpanzees look like brain-dead cultists. Centrist GOP and Dems are bewildered cattle on the way to the abattoir, they don't have a clue what's going on and aren't likely to figure it out in time. All our sad little self-deceptions and public posturings we've depended on are stripped away and we're seeing ourselves as we really are. Ain't pretty, but I fucking love it. It's more fun than watching two old duffers at the nursing home fighting over a set of false teeth. It's exactly what we needed after 16 stultifying years of The Shrub-n-Barry Show. We need to shake shit up, like Fremen Jihad.
You should read the Mueller report. It exonerated the press, not Trump. "Russia! Russia!" is real. Team Trump did everything just short of formally entering into an agreement with the Ruskies, and then rewarded them with loosened sanctions after Trump's victory. And we still don't know what Trump and Putin discussed in their private, staffless meetings. And after the release of the Mueller report, Trump calls Putin... not to tell him to stop fucking with our elections, but to basically agree with the Russian propaganda vis a vis the Mueller report.

Birtherism, on the other hand, was conspiracy nuttery. Benghazi was a witch hunt. Uranium One: conspiracy nuttery. Pizzagate: conspiracy nuttery. Seth Rich: conspiracy nuttery...
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Joe » Tue May 07, 2019 1:56 am

Ya think?
Jared Kushner Admitted In Private That Trump Lies To His Base Because They’re “Stupid”

Sometimes we’re left wondering if Trump even really believes the bullshit that spews from his own mouth on the regular. Seriously, he can’t possibly, right? He has to know that, at least some of the time, that he’s just absolutely full of shit. Either that or the dementia is really digging its claws in him.

It turns out we’re not so far off the mark, after all. Oftentimes, Trump is seen as a conman whose main objective is conning his opposition. But Trump is, in fact, a conman who strives to con everyone he comes in contact with — his own base included. And his narcissistic personality often leaves him screeching and screaming his lies at America, pissed that we don’t automatically and unwittingly drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

Trump’s very own son-in-law Jared Kushner, who’s been under scrutiny for a multitude of wrongdoings lately, actually accidentally admitted to everything we suspected about his father-in-law. Kushner was previously the publisher of the New York Observer where he had an interesting conversation with his lead editor, Elizabeth Spiers.

A right-wing blogger got his undies in a bunch over Ms. Spiers calling Trump a liar. So, she took to social media to tell a little story about her time at the Observer and gave the public a scathing example of why she might use the term “liar” for Mr. Trump:

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I don't know about this site, but there's a reason Trump's lawyers wouldn't let Meuller question him face-to-face. They were afraid he'd lie under oath.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by pErvinalia » Tue May 07, 2019 2:41 am

The crackpot even lied about where his father was born. He's got major problems.
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Joe » Tue May 07, 2019 4:11 am

I'm always amazed to open my newspaper every morning and see some shit Trump said plastered across the front page. Anybody with half a head for math know the odds are he's lying and what he said will amount to nothing.

And still they jump when he tweets. :dunno:
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Re: All Things Trump: Is it over yet?

Post by Tero » Tue May 07, 2019 12:06 pm

No collusion!No collusion!No collusion!
China China China!
same old ding dong every day.
But the Republicans actually do not back him on China. Yet they cannot say anything for fear of being replaced by a Trump Republican in 2020 run.
No collusion!
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