The Make Fun of Elizabeth Warren Thread

[Joe]

Violin? Really? Chicks don't dig that anymore.

Try an eclectic guitar if you really want groupies.

It's an apt accompaniment to some of the self-pity I've recently heard.

Besides, I don't need chicks or groupies. Mrs. Joe is more than enough.

[Cunt]

Violin? Really? Chicks don't dig that anymore.

Try an eclectic guitar if you really want groupies.

It's an apt accompaniment to some of the self-pity I've recently heard.

Besides, I don't need chicks or groupies. Mrs. Joe is more than enough.

Then why do you express such a concern for your group here being without women?

I mean, women are allowed here, and rumour has it that some of the ones who came here were a bit dirty. Before facebook lured them all away with it's glitzier interface and non-creepy presentation.

[Joe]

Violin? Really? Chicks don't dig that anymore.

Try an eclectic guitar if you really want groupies.

It's an apt accompaniment to some of the self-pity I've recently heard.

Besides, I don't need chicks or groupies. Mrs. Joe is more than enough.

Then why do you express such a concern for your group here being without women?

I mean, women are allowed here, and rumour has it that some of the ones who came here were a bit dirty. Before facebook lured them all away with it's glitzier interface and non-creepy presentation.

What group?

[Cunt]

Violin? Really? Chicks don't dig that anymore.

Try an eclectic guitar if you really want groupies.

It's an apt accompaniment to some of the self-pity I've recently heard.

Besides, I don't need chicks or groupies. Mrs. Joe is more than enough.

Then why do you express such a concern for your group here being without women?

I mean, women are allowed here, and rumour has it that some of the ones who came here were a bit dirty. Before facebook lured them all away with it's glitzier interface and non-creepy presentation.

What group?

I assumed, when you were lamenting the lack of women on Ratz earlier (you blamed it on people you dislike, if I recall correctly) that you were including yourself as part of this group.

I also thought it was pretty clear though so...

[Joe]

Naw, I was giving Forty Two a well deserved ribbing for not owning up to the crass shit he posted earlier in the thread, but Ratz sure could use some more women.

[pErvinalia]

I haven't been here long enough to say anything definitively, but even with the decline in forum participation, it seems like all the new members have been men. I wonder how many women lurk at while, roll their eyes, and go somewhere else when they see this crap.

Maybe if it weren't such a sausage-fest here, you could get laid.

Just keep attacking the right people, with the right virtue signalling, and it'll happen for you, Joe.

Loneliness is the worst thing that can happen to anyone. Say anything you want about me, if it moves you away from that.

"Virtue signalling"... another one of those empty conservative catch phrases. Tells us more about the mind of the person uttering it than the person it is directed to.

[Seabass]

I agree with the author. This "both sides" bullshit has got to stop.

There Aren't Two Sides: Trump's Violent Rhetoric Is What Got Us Here
https://www.gq.com/story/trumps-violent-america

Herein was the issue: flattening political discourse to nothingness, as if the civil rights activists struggling for voting rights and white supremacists agitating to suppress them were on equal sides of the same coin. In the '60s and '70s, as today, it was fringe activists, like the Weather Underground, who engaged in political violence on the left, while on the right, the political violence, including police beatings and mob murders of non-violent civil rights activists, was openly sanctioned by establishment political figures. Sure, a former Bernie Sanders volunteer, as Press Secretary Sarah Sanders cited in defense of Trump, shot up a GOP baseball game, but Bernie, unlike Trump, doesn't offer incitements of violence as a regular feature of his speeches. There are, of course, loonies and extremists of all political stripes, but only the leaders of one political party have consistently encouraged extrajudicial violence, viciously attacked the free press, and advocated for the imprisonment of political opponents: the GOP.

Trump has led the way, explicitly promoting violence and assailing the press. He has repeatedly struck an offensive on facts and reporting, sliming the media as "fake news," "dishonest," and "a real problem in this country," attacking CNN, in particular, as the "enemy of the people." At his rallies, journalists have become a punching bag, with hecklers screaming insults and obscenities in their faces. There is simply nothing bearing any resemblance to this attack on the First Amendment, nevermind an equivalence, coming from the Democratic leadership. This morning, unsurprisingly reversing on his brief call for unity, Trump tweeted out a victim-blaming and threatening assessment of the attempted bombings: "A very big part of the Anger we see today in our society is caused by the purposely false and inaccurate reporting of the Mainstream Media that I refer to as Fake News. It has gotten so bad and hateful that it is beyond description. Mainstream Media must clean up its act, FAST!"

For many years now, Trump has condoned extrajudicial violence in no uncertain terms. He has repeatedly expressed admiration for murderous dictators, particularly those who dispose of adversarial journalists. Last week, at a Montana rally, he praised Rep. Greg Gianforte (R-Mont.), who assaulted a reporter last spring, as "my kind of guy" specifically because he had "body-slammed a reporter." Gianforte was never censured by his Republican colleagues for physically attacking a journalist. By contrast, Democratic leaders, like Schumer, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, and former Obama advisor David Axelrod have gone out of their way to scold liberal protest—the nonviolent exercise of free speech—at restaurants.

On the 2016 campaign trail, Trump leaned heavily on violent fantasy, urging supporters in Cedar Rapids, Iowa to "knock the crap out of" protestors, promising to pay their legal fees; telling a Las Vegas crowd "I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you" of another protestor; and directing security at a winter Vermont rally to confiscate protestors' coats before kicking them out. The crowd ate it up. Trump security choked a Time photographer in Virginia rally. And in North Carolina, a Trump supporter punched a Black Lives Matter protester at a rally, and another protester was beaten by a mob in Alabama. Of the latter attack, Trump complained on Fox News that the protester "was so obnoxious and so loud" that "maybe he should have been roughed up."

While Trump has unequivocally called for actual violence, his administration has lashed out at non-violent political protest, like a 26-seat farm-to-table restaurant refusing service to Press Secretary Sanders, denouncing, along with the pearl-clutching political class, so-called "leftist mobs" for exercising political speech. After Rep. Waters encouraged progressives to confront "anybody from that Cabinet" in public to "push back" on the policy of family separation at the border, Trump twisted it into an us-versus-them attack, issuing a warning: "she has just called for harm to supporters…of the Make America Great Again movement. Be careful what you wish for Max." Of Kavanaugh's critics, he said "these people are evil." While the president cares little for policy, wavering back and forth on issues, one of the few consistencies in his political ideology is that it is premised on the debasement and dehumanization of the other.

The two hallmark chants of Trump rallies—"build a wall" and "lock her up"—bonded the red-hat-wearing MAGA supporters together in authoritarian bloodthirst of jailing and dehumanizing one's political opponents. Instead of the typical messages of uplift and unity, the fervor is built on division, as supporters often wear T-shirts with slogans that broadcast malice: Hillary for Prison, Trump That Bitch, Fuck Your Feelings, She's a Cunt. Trump, of course, launched his political candidacy on distrust of non-whites and vile old stereotypes, particularly the racist birther conspiracy theory, which posited that Obama was a foreigner born, not in Hawaii, but in Kenya, and that the constitutional scholar was somehow too lazy and stupid to get into Harvard and Columbia.

full article: https://www.gq.com/story/trumps-violent-america

[L'Emmerdeur]

I think the Democratic leadership can't help themselves; they see it as their duty to rein in what they perceive as excesses on the part of those on the left who've used approaches to protest that they consider disruptive and unseemly. In my opinion that's a good thing, if also somewhat misguided. I whole-heartedly agree with what Uyehara has written: The timid 'both sides' false equivalence is a serious mistake.

If the Democrats were to adopt Trump's methods of encouraging and enabling expressions of partisan vitriol it would only serve to further divide the US. While the Trump-Republicans are apparently incapable of taking the high road, no good will come if the Democrats attempt to imitate them. Capitulation and acquiescence are out of the question, but the Democratic resistance to Trump's vulgar authoritarianism needs to uphold the stated ideals of the US rather than joining him in shitting on them.

[Sean Hayden]

We knew this was coming before Trump, or we had some idea it was. Remember how optimistic we've been for years now because of the changing demographics? We knew there was a chance those being left behind would become radicalized.

It's important for Democrats not to see this as business as usual. It's not. It's so important for Democrats to win everywhere they can right now, and if they do to consider how best to implement lasting changes that seriously hurt the right across the board.

[Sean Hayden]

Well, everything but get the Supreme Court. Seriously, you couldn't engineer worse luck...

[L'Emmerdeur]

McConnell's thoroughly feculent torpedoing of the Garland nomination had nothing to do with luck, though.

[Joe]

I haven't been here long enough to say anything definitively, but even with the decline in forum participation, it seems like all the new members have been men. I wonder how many women lurk at while, roll their eyes, and go somewhere else when they see this crap.

Maybe if it weren't such a sausage-fest here, you could get laid.

Just keep attacking the right people, with the right virtue signalling, and it'll happen for you, Joe.

Loneliness is the worst thing that can happen to anyone. Say anything you want about me, if it moves you away from that.

"Virtue signalling"... another one of those empty conservative catch phrases. Tells us more about the mind of the person uttering it than the person it is directed to.

It's just a lame putdown some people hide behind when they're called out for bad behavior. The conservatives I know don't use the term, and would call them out too. Disrespecting women is unmanly in their view.

What puzzles me is why Cunt is so verklempt. I called out Coito XLII, not him.

[Cunt]

I haven't been here long enough to say anything definitively, but even with the decline in forum participation, it seems like all the new members have been men. I wonder how many women lurk at while, roll their eyes, and go somewhere else when they see this crap.

Maybe if it weren't such a sausage-fest here, you could get laid.

Just keep attacking the right people, with the right virtue signalling, and it'll happen for you, Joe.

Loneliness is the worst thing that can happen to anyone. Say anything you want about me, if it moves you away from that.

"Virtue signalling"... another one of those empty conservative catch phrases. Tells us more about the mind of the person uttering it than the person it is directed to.

It's just a lame putdown some people hide behind when they're called out for bad behavior. The conservatives I know don't use the term, and would call them out too. Disrespecting women is unmanly in their view.

What puzzles me is why Cunt is so verklempt. I called out Coito XLII, not him.

Say what you want about anyone, but I know you can't see anything but your party colours.

This Warren toolbag is a lying fuck who uses invented 'victim status' to further her career, claiming membership in a group which wouldn't have her, and you take a shot at Forty Two?

Awesome!

[Seabass]

Are you whiteknighting 42? For whom exactly are you virtue signaling? Are you angling to get Coito in the sack?

[pErvinalia]