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All Things Trump: the story continues...
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By CRAIG HOWIE
Donald Trump hit back at Mike Pence on Saturday, saying his former running mate and GOP presidential race rival has “gone to the Dark Side.”
Trump’s renewed criticism of the former vice president came as Pence has sharpened his attacks on his former boss over the events surrounding the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol and charges Trump faces over the mishandling of classified documents.
“WOW, it’s finally happened!” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post Saturday. “Liddle’ Mike Pence, a man who was about to be ousted as Governor Indiana until I came along and made him V.P., has gone to the Dark Side.”
“Today’s indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States,” Pence said in a statement.
On Saturday, Pence emphasized the gravity of mishandling classified materials at a national security event in New Hampshire.
Donald Trump hit back at Mike Pence on Saturday, saying his former running mate and GOP presidential race rival has “gone to the Dark Side.”
Trump’s renewed criticism of the former vice president came as Pence has sharpened his attacks on his former boss over the events surrounding the Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol and charges Trump faces over the mishandling of classified documents.
“WOW, it’s finally happened!” Trump wrote in a Truth Social post Saturday. “Liddle’ Mike Pence, a man who was about to be ousted as Governor Indiana until I came along and made him V.P., has gone to the Dark Side.”
“Today’s indictment serves as an important reminder: anyone who puts himself over the Constitution should never be President of the United States,” Pence said in a statement.
On Saturday, Pence emphasized the gravity of mishandling classified materials at a national security event in New Hampshire.
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Trump is taunting with a judge he has not met. He really wants jail.
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Embrace the Darkness, it needs a hug
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I'd like to know what he call 'very powerful grounds'... unless he means the remains of coffee making, that expression seems utterly meaningless, and given the kind of motives for which a judge might be expected to recuse himself, I just wonder what the judge assigned to the cas has that anothe does not.
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But "they" are saying he has powerful grounds. They told him so! He heard it so it must be true.
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they also spoke to Joan of Arc...
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Judge Cannon muddies waters, wants Trump to request dismissal:
It is unclear if Special Counsel Jack Smith will seek the intervention of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals at this time, which in two separate scathing orders previously struck down Judge Cannon’s illegal attempt to assert jurisdiction over the Mar-a-Lago search warrant back in 2022.
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/judge- ... ument-case
It is unclear if Special Counsel Jack Smith will seek the intervention of the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals at this time, which in two separate scathing orders previously struck down Judge Cannon’s illegal attempt to assert jurisdiction over the Mar-a-Lago search warrant back in 2022.
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pence covered well here
he went to the grand jury
he went to the grand jury
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Pardons for everybody on Day 1!
It's an awful lot of planning for a guy who does not know how government works.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/p ... 234800968/The FBI’s investigation of over a thousand rioters who breached and trashed the Capitol on Jan. 6 — officially the largest criminal investigation in Justice Department history — is another area where Trump has stated he would like to reverse course. “I am inclined to pardon many of them. I can’t say for every single one because a couple of them, probably, they got out of control,” Trump told host Kaitlan Collins during a CNN town hall in May.
When the broader topic of possible second-term pardons has come up behind closed doors, Trump has at times said that such pardons should be signed at the start of the term, not saved for the later on, according to those who’ve heard him discuss it since last year. Aside from the rioters themselves, Trump has also privately floated issuing a wave of pardons to higher-ranking figures who were scrutinized in Special Counsel Smith’s two main investigations.
“This would be like hitting the delete-key on all of DOJ’s work on these investigations,” a person intimately familiar with the conversations told Rolling Stone in March. In the past several months, when confidants have quipped to Trump that he may have to “pardon yourself,” should he return to the Oval Office, the ex-president has sometimes simply smirked and replied that they’ll have to wait and see.
Another major focus of some of these counter-probes would be “grand jury violations,” says one person familiar with the matter. The counter-probe of those alleged “violations” is the surest sign yet that in a second Trump administration, the Justice Department would seek to investigate the special counsel’s use of grand juries in the Mar-a-Lago and January 6 cases. (Indeed, Trump has already vowed to sic a special counsel on President Biden if he beats him in 2024.)
Some of these “special prosecutors” wouldn’t even be based out of the Justice Department, as special counsels typically are. In some of these private Trumpworld legal plans, some of the “special counsels” would be based out of places like the White House. This idea is nearly identical to the controversial position that Trumpist lawyer and conspiracy theorist Sidney Powell tried to convince then-President Trump to give her in the aftermath of the 2020 election.
In this informal vetting for Justice Department candidates, former senior Trump aides and well-connected activists have sought lawyers with a track record of loathing DOJ, particularly what they deem its supposedly “liberal,” “left-wing,” or “Marxist” elements.
The Justice Department has typically enjoyed a degree of insulation from White House control, a norm aimed at avoiding the politicization of prosecution. But Fitton argues that the department should be more “responsive” to a president’s priorities, a belief that Trump and various influential conservatives embrace enthusiastically. “Is the Justice Department going to operate as an entity outside the White House as opposed to an entity that’s controlled by the president, as the Constitution requires?” he says.
Putting it another way: “What we’re trying to do is identify the pockets of independence and seize them,” Russ Vought, a former top Trump official who heads the Center for Renewing America, told The New York Times in a story published last month.
It's an awful lot of planning for a guy who does not know how government works.
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A lot of people are saying that Mike Pense is not a good person... I don't know, he might be... but a lot of people are saying he isn't etc etc...
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Trump Florida judge is an idiot. No reviewing will help. She has no legal complaint and can be replaced as incompetent.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-documents- ... 32964.html
There is no need to try the federal crime in the state.
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-documents- ... 32964.html
There is no need to try the federal crime in the state.
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Foxnews outraged at Smith getting witness to cooperate and FLIP:
Of the Bratt-Woodward report, Fox News contributor and George Washington University Law Prof. Jonathan Turley also opined, saying in a June "Hill" column the indictment against Nauta, a Guam native, is "clearly designed to concentrate [his] mind on cooperation."
"If he were to flip… Trump would face a potentially insurmountable case," Turley wrote in the column.
Of the Bratt-Woodward report, Fox News contributor and George Washington University Law Prof. Jonathan Turley also opined, saying in a June "Hill" column the indictment against Nauta, a Guam native, is "clearly designed to concentrate [his] mind on cooperation."
"If he were to flip… Trump would face a potentially insurmountable case," Turley wrote in the column.
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—tough choice, going to jail or turning on Trump.
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